Subj : Re: Single payer health care
To : All
From : anthk
Date : Sat Apr 05 2025 10:04 am
On 2025-01-28, Gamgee <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> -=> Aaron Goldblatt wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
>
> UG> I know the progressives want single payer, but unless we pay down our
> UG> budget deficit a bit, I do not feel comfortable with the start up
> UG> costs.
>
> AG> Reforming our tax system such that all incomes pay something
> AG> approximating a fair share, and reforming defense spending, would go a
> AG> long way toward paying for the creation of a national health system and
> AG> a stable Social Security system.
>
> AG> Non-exhaustive example: Defense spending is known to be rife with
> AG> waste, but efforts to control it and figure out what money is actually
> AG> being spent on are stymied at every turn (and this week's firing of the
> AG> Inspector General at DOD will not help). Defense spending is the number
> AG> general line item in the budget after Social Security (see below), yet
> AG> nobody wants to make any serious effort to touch it. Social Security
> AG> used to be the third rail of politics; now it seems to be guns.
>
> AG> Non-exhaustive example: Social security could be considerably shored up
> AG> by lifting the maximum income limit on the tax (currently approximately
> AG> $176,000).
>
> AG> Non-exhaustive example: Taxing capital gains at a higher rate than we
> AG> do presently, especially for gains values over $1 million. Currently,
> AG> the individual rate sits at 20%, down from a maximum of 35% in 1979,
> AG> and the corporate rate sits at 21%, down from a maximum of 35%
> AG> beginning in 1993. Yet it's well known that large corporations pay
> AG> little to nothing, sometimes even getting millions to hundreds of
> AG> millions in refunds. In a fair system, that would not happen.
>
> AG> Instead, politicians focus on penny-anty nonsense like cutting NASA and
> AG> the USPS (both respectively less than 0.06% of the total spend in
> AG> 2024). The USPS in particular would be self-supporting if not for that
> AG> silly retirement pre-funding accounting gimmick that no other business
> AG> in the world is required to use. (And there is a significant argument
> AG> to be made that not everything must be for-profit.)
>
> AG> On the other hand, Republicans seem to have a significant aversion to
> AG> doing anything at all that will help average people and make their
> AG> lives easier. Non-exhaustive examples: Proposals to repeal the ACA
> AG> without any kind of plan to replace it, despite now having had 14 years
> AG> to come up with something; litigation and plans in legislation to
> AG> destroy the SAVE plan for student loan borrowers; continual attempts to
> AG> tighten eligibility for Medicaid, SSDI, SNAP and school lunches.
>
> Sounds like you should move your socialist commie-wannabe ass to
> Venezuela. I hear it's nice there this time of year.
>
>
>
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Spain is not Venezuela and it works really well. Nobody will neither steal your iPhone
nor deny your rights for a private insurance. You know, between Stalin and Vance
there's a huge spectrum and sane people. In my case, state healthcare was amazing.
Our state AT&T teleco monopoly (former Telefonica) sucked a lot compared to private companies.
And for telecomms I supported liberlisations from the start.
On healthcare... the private companies
can't even try to compete, for mid-level surgeries they send you to the public service.
Some things are better under a private companies. Healthcare, food control... that's a
recipe for disasters. Just have a look on what's happening with measles.
It sucks to be the only rational out there.
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