Subj : Re: US tariff retaliation
To   : paulie420
From : hollowone
Date : Fri Mar 07 2025 12:23 am

pa>  ho> Time will show, but it definitively look like gambling a lot.
pa>  ho> Gambling and abusing the world we all knew for decades sure.
pa>
pa> Well, today the tariffs on Mexico and Canada were paused; my question to
pa> citizens of other countries are why is it OK for America to be
pa> taxed/tariffed/dutied and we shouldn't impose [generally] reciprocal
pa> tariffs? I agree - we should have free trade; but it isn't free trade if
pa> Americans [because thats who are paying AND suffering not being able to
pa> export] suffer because of tarrifs, VATs and other fees.

Yeah, I noted, he paused for the second time, if he pauses for the 3rd, he won't be treated seriously in these matters at all... that's perfect example of that gambling&abusing.

I'm of course pro free/fair trade agreements. That's least of my concerns.
All the domestic benefit you see you may gain is fair to dream of as the outcome.

I think Trump's biggest challenges (in Europe where I stand and which's point of view I kind of represent) are related to:

- his communication style is not bringing him friends nor trust anything happening in US today is stable and continual
- impact of his communication on general feeling about international security

This two connected are waking up Europe to accelerate its future without US dependency. The biggest surprise to Trump may be that he assumes EU,CA,UK,AU as his lesser partners have no power to oppose, which I believe may be false assumption.

Common folk just raises the emotional level of this conversation as it's clearly seen you're ran by fascists, and we're still allergic to fascism.

I also mind that China to secure its trade interests may eventually realize that they need to conquer seas. I mean literally. This is something that I believe none of us want and that's the final glue.

But that still works under condition that Russia is kept at leash. they continually need to, otherwise the only outcome I see is WWIII with you guys fighting on Pacific with Chinese and us in Europe with Russia.

History repeats with a different definition of Axis vs. Allies.

If things go wrong, I'm kind of expecting it in 10 years tbh.

With that on my mind, fair trade is not the most important principle, I
personally fight for.

-h1

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