Subj : Re: DOGE Website Hacked
To : Dumas Walker
From : paulie420
Date : Wed Feb 19 2025 04:29 pm
DW> Not per Elon. Figuring out that USAID was full of pork was easy.
DW> Getting into the SSA system and thinking you've found a bunch of people
DW> who turned *exactly* 150 years old this year -- not a range, like some
DW> people 155, some 147, etc. -- and being so confident that you announce
DW> it publicly is a sign that they don't really know what they are doing.
Is your belief that there is NONE or VERY LITTLE fraudulent SSA payouts?
Because I haven't heard DOGE.GOV to post receipts on its site; I've heard Elon/Trump say that there are some 12M+/- people over the age of 120 getting SSA payments... those are statements, not facts. I'm waiting to see the receipts, but yea - I'm thinking theres some major fraud there since their willing to make those beginning statements.
As I mentioned last time - what will you think in a few weeks IF DOGE shows that serious fraud is present? ... if there is NONE, or minimal - as OF COURSE theres fraud that I'd call 'normal' - then I'd agree that stirring up those rumors w/o knowing that theres proof coming out is irresponsible and it would make me question more about DOGE. But they've been SO transparent, even when they've made an incorrect statement;
-----DOGE QUOTE-----
DOGE claimed $8 billion in savings from a cancelled contract on their new "wall of receipts." It was actually $8 million.
Around the time we published the story, DOGE removed a screenshot that showed the mismatch, but continued to claim 8 bil. in savings.
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... and the $8B claim was because the RECORD showed 8B - its all linked and very transparent. I think the fraud DOGE is going to prove is gonna be vast and I just wonder if that happens, then what will your stance be?
... It seems to me that the stance would still be anti-DOGE/Trump/Elon, when they are working their tails off for the American people.
DW> When they copy data over to one of their server systems, where they can
DW> supposedly understand it, and it gets hacked, I will await how you spin
DW> that. Since they seem to know little about online security, it shouldn't
DW> take long.
Do you honestly think the data from the organizations their going through is stored on some tech bro's Thinkpad? C'mon, dude. Its literally the government; there is clearances and protocols - I disagree with you. The data their going through is not in the same universe as the DOGE.GOV website, but I think we're just going to agree to disagree.
DW> Assuming that you are waiting for actual proof that there are that many
DW> and not just Elon or Trump's word, my answer is don't hold your breath.
DW>
DW> I am sure they will make enough crap up so that those people who think
DW> it is a good idea will never notice.
Yep - thats where we'll have to leave it. All I have to say, and where *I'm* at too!! - is I cannot wait to see what the following weeks and months show the American people. I hear your stance, and I hope you hear mine... I personally think we're going to be blown away by the waste and fraud.
Also, I'm SURE that even if I see receipts that prove the above that you prolly won't agree with it... as I don't want to spend tax dollars on sprinkle band orchestras in Moldova, but others might not agree. :P
But the SSA fraud - I think thats one where we could both agree. Lets see if its proven that ANY millions of dead people are getting checks - if so, no American could say that DOGE didn't do a great job.
