Subj : Re: DOGE Website Hacked
To : Dumas Walker
From : paulie420
Date : Tue Feb 18 2025 05:43 pm
DW> Unless we've all worked on mainframes on government systems that use
DW> older programming languages, like COBOL, I don't think we all can.
DW> Elon, as smart as he is, obviously doesn't have a grasp on it.
I disagree - while *I* or you might not know how to handle that data, I'm sure the team Elon has put together has the chops to doso; and it seems like they're having zero issues as of yet!
DW> I never said it was a conspiracy. What I did bring up was that they
DW> stood up a website that was immediately hacked, exposing the data behind
DW> it to whoever wanted it. In this day and age, if they don't know how to
DW> secure a website, they are not the "wiz kids" that Elon is promoting
DW> them as. They might not sell the data, but whoever hacks it will
DW> certainly do so if it contains any data of value -- like personally
DW> identifying information (PII) -- at all.
... but - who even cares? [They stood up a website that was immediately hacked] Its literally a website with text and graphics; IT doesn't hold any of the data that DOGE is accessing - its just a literal statement of reciepts... sure, it would be better if it had great security - but I think DOGE just wanted to be transparent and get data to the American people. I'm OK with them putting it up and going back to secure it FULLY - its literally just a blog, so what if it got knocked down for a few hours?
DW> So, if there is a conspiracy, that conspiracy would be that there are a
DW> bunch of less-than-competent kids who know little about data security
DW> that are mucking about in federal systems.
I think its more like those 'less-than-competent kids', who all have IQs over 150 - thats a true statement - are actually working on getting all the data from the systems THEIR working on; I'd be willing to bet that DOGE.GOV was thrown up by an intern, or even Elon!!! Again, it isn't the data their accessing - its literally a 'Wordpress blog'.
DW> Musk recently made some statement, without evidence, that there were a
DW> bunch of 150 year olds in the SSA system. I don't know the specifics of
DW> that system but I would 100% guarantee you that if that system was using
DW> IBM DB2, he would have made the statement that there were a bunch of 124
DW> year olds in the system because a null date on an IBM DB2 database is
DW> 19010101.
I would like to see the lists, but its been stated today that theres literally <12M people aged 120+ are on there. HOWEVER, note that there is NOT info about these #s on DOGE.GOV - I'm going to trust, and verify, the receipts that DO show up on DOGE.GOV. IMO, all the babble by Trump & media, both on the right and left, is just talking heads until DOGE actually makes a statement about it. I completely agree with you about null values, or OTHER issues with a data that POINT to something that isn't, but...
Lemme ask you this - what would you say if after this investigating that we get hard proof that there are some even thousands or 100s of thousands of dead people receiving benefits??? My point is I can't wait to give this time and see the proof... I think a lot of people are getting scared about that proof and a whole lot of rich politicians and contractors that are losing their shit because DOGE is digging - even if theres nothing, dig dig dig!
