Subj : NATO
To   : Kaelon
From : Arelor
Date : Wed Aug 02 2023 03:40 pm

 Re: NATO
 By: Kaelon to Arelor on Wed Aug 02 2023 01:09 pm

>   Re: NATO
>   By: Arelor to Kaelon on Wed Aug 02 2023 01:00 pm
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>  > Your case is that it is beneficial for Europe and other satellite countri >  > to pay protection to the USA so the rest of the countries can be
>  > Socialistic. In other words, the claim is that becoming a protectorate is >  > good for the protectees.
>
> The problem with legacy protectorate models is that contributing to these sy > ent and this fiscal burden largely builds resentment among populations and a >
> NATO, and the Marshal Plan that (re-)built Europe after the War, is very dif > me sort of classic protectorate model really belies its intended purpose: a  >
> In the United States, significant deficit spending (and the world's largest  > military revenues for the U.S. military. The system works so long as it rema >
> If NATO ceases to be a thing, or even worse, if the U.S. pulls out of the re > elfare states, and fund costly militaries to thwart Chinese, Russian, and Ne > _____
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The theory would be sound if the US wasn't sinking deeper and deeper in debt,
due in great part to their military budget. If they were leveraging debt in
order to reap big gains due to their investment, they would not have the
astronomical debt they carry.

I don't see that much investment from American companies here either when
compared to other actors. The ones that carry operations here have a big
tendency to run decoy headquarters in Europe and run the thick of the actual
work in Asia.

What you see on the ground is a massive lack of supplies which suggests
international supply chains are stressed. Peeople needs a prothesic knee
replacement but it takes a month to arrive. People needs an AC coupling but theonly models available are the ones nobody wants to buy. This suggests trading
is not running smooth. If your hipothesis is that the US is recouping their
debt expenses via trading then I have to assume revenue is going low because
suply chains are thin. This reinforces my own hypothesis that the model is not
as tought as thought.

They had to redefine "recession" and now the international market is
overflooded by USDs that used to be circulating in the INternational market andnow are not being used. This kind of supports my hypothesis too.

n fact I dare say that if I had to accept your premises, the NATO Itself would
be under an extreme existential threat, at least as powerful as the one the
Russian population think they face themselves.

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