Subj : Re: Y'all or Ya'll?
To : Margaerynne
From : Arelor
Date : Wed Jul 26 2023 01:52 pm
Re: Re: Y'all or Ya'll?
By: Margaerynne to Gamgee on Tue Jul 25 2023 09:54 pm
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> I favor student loan forgiveness (to a point, not necessarily a complete an > s continue to turn expertise into economic growth.
> I don't particularly care about la revolucion, and I want neither Peron nor > beyond inflation.
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> But, at the end of the day, there's room for reasonable disagreement.
> Even with us both being reasonable people, I'm not sure this is going to c
I'd argue that the education machine is a mean of production - since it
produces professionals, at least in theory. Therefore any attempt from the
Government or any authority structure to take over it using cohercitive means
is a Socialist action.
When a Government becomes the primary source of funds for a corporation, that
corporation becomes a branch of the Government. See Spanish examples such as
ACS or Indra.
Now, the problem with forgiving loans or using tax money to fund education is
that you massify education (which is bad), you overproduce professionals (whichis bad) and are sending the message that education may get as expensive as it
wants to get, because the Government will cover for it (which is bad because
you end up paying for it through the Government).
But I dare say the premise that formal education must be accesible to anybody
at any cost is flawed, so the whole points above are moot.
We don't need degreed people. We need qualified workers. Lots of jobs can be
done by people who has never stepped into College and in fact they may make
more money in a number of cases. I'd make the point that we need to stop
promoting the need for getting a degree and start promoting the idea that
people should be learning a trade. Spain is #1 example of a country that keeps
overproducing degreed people, won't stop producing degreed people, and as a
result has lots of degreed people working at places were no degree is needed.
And the argument gets better.
Lots of what you learn through the University you could learn yourself. This isthe era of Internet and public libraries. People does not go to College to
*learn*, they go to College to get a *paper* that says they passed some
compliance test that makes them fit for certain role in Society. I am not
symathetic to the idea that Joe the Gardener has to pay for some kid to get a
paper which is only needed because we have artificially made that paper
powerful.
I reproduce a joke I once read in a web comic:
Professor: "Hey kid! May I interest you in some College education? We have a
special program. We give you all the learning resources you need, you get to
pick the subjects that interest you, we let you learn at your own speed and it
is all funded by the Government!"
Kid: "What's the catch?"
Professor: "This program does not give you a paper or title in the end"
Kid: "You have wasted my time, sir."
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