Subj : Re: Y'all or Ya'll?
To   : Gamgee
From : Margaerynne
Date : Tue Jul 25 2023 09:54 pm

 Re: Re: Y'all or Ya'll?
 By: Gamgee to Margaerynne on Tue Jul 25 2023 07:50 am


> Please remember, though, that the topic of discussion was basically that
> Europeans are generally more receptive to socialism - as in who pays for
> the "free stuff".  College educations and the forgiving of student debt,
> to be specific.

I might be getting my wires crossed, especially trying to trace a thread  through two weeks of crosstalk, but I think your original comment was in  response to societies favoring individuals or communities. Obviously, please  feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

My main point is that I don't think forgiving student debt (or covering the  cost of college) requires you to be receptive -- or even tolerant -- of  socialism. Socialism in the sense that relates to control over the means of  production,  the organization of the economy, etc. etc. rather than simply  "stuff is subsidized by taxpayers/the government/society.

I favor student loan forgiveness (to a point, not necessarily a complete and  permanent amnesty) and subsidized public college because it seems like an easy  investment into the future labor pool, especially as automation and  ever-growing tech industries continue to turn expertise into economic growth.
I don't particularly care about la revolucion, and I want neither Peron nor  Castro haunting this country. But I do want America to remain productive and  competitive,  and I don't think that's done by continuing to increase the cost  of education  well beyond inflation.

But, at the end of the day, there's room for reasonable disagreement.
Even with us both being reasonable people, I'm not sure this is going to  c hange either of our minds.

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