Subj : Re: Y'all or Ya'll?
To   : Margaerynne
From : Dr. What
Date : Tue Jul 25 2023 07:57 am

-=> Margaerynne wrote to Gamgee <=-

Ma>  A communal mindset isn't only present in socialism.

Only a most disingenuous person would try to conflate socialism with being in a
community.  But we've come to expect such things from you.

Ma>  After all, why wouldn't you want your neighborhood to flourish? Why
Ma> wouldn't you want
Ma>  the best for the schools that educate your children, the city that
Ma> they live in, and
Ma>  the state they claim as their home?

People have been pooling their resources to make the whole community prosper
for a very long time.  But such pooling is not socialist because everyone
involved is choosing the benefits over the drawbacks.  Anyone who chooses may
elect to NOT participate or stop participating.

Under socialism, as you ignore, there is no choice.  The State owns everything.
The State tells you what to do.  You do not choose to participate and you
cannot choose to NOT participate.  And, in many socialist societied, you could
not even choose to leave - especially if you were a productive person, because
socialist states tend to have few of these people.

Ma>  People didn't join fraternities, industry-specific credit unions, and
Ma> neighborhood councils
Ma>  because they were stupid or communists -- they joined because, as in

And, once again, conflating different ideas to push your agenda.

No one forces you join a frat or a credit union.

I don't know why neighboorhood councils even factors in to this.  Those are
primarily for wannabe Elitists who want to tell others what do to.

Ma> 1776, it makes the most
Ma>  sense to join with people like you.

Ahhh...  Pushing the tribalism.  Your masters would be impressed that you snuck
that one in.

They need to keep everyone in their own little groups to make it much easier to
control them.  Divide and conquer.

Ma>  Hell, even the titans of industry collaborated and colluded all the
Ma> time.

And, of course, the usual "rich men mad" tired old trope.

Socialists are the larval form of dictators.  And they are **always** jealous
because others have far more ability than they ever have.  So they have to keep
pushing to "pull everyone up", which is socialist-speak for "pulling everyone
down".

Ma>  It's the most American thing there is, all the way back to "Join or
Ma> Die".

Which had nothing to do with socialism.


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