Subj : Re: Testing the waters
To   : MRO
From : Boraxman
Date : Sun Dec 04 2022 03:37 pm

-=> MRO wrote to Boraxman <=-

MR>   Re: Re: Testing the waters
MR>   By: Boraxman to Spaul on Sat Dec 03 2022 07:41 pm

> I dont have much to say on the pandemic itself, but it showed me that people
> who are supposedly educated and class themselves as the bastions of
> rationality dropped critical thinking in order to score points.  Things
> quickly turned into a political crapfest where one side wanted to prove the
> other was science-denying right-wing conspiracy theorists.  In order to do
> that, they claimed that they represented "science", and believed that the
> mainstream narrative was indeed based on the best science there was.  In
> order to take this position, people refused to look that perhaps state
> actors were using this as an opportunity to control the population, that
> perhaps Big Pharma might put money over safety and efficacy.  People lost
> any sense of scepticism so they could portray themselves as being with the
> 'narrative', which was seen as science and progress.
>
> I'm not going to comment on the vaccines specifically, but I think other
> social motives took root, and bad information was flowing over all facets of
> any debate and discussion.
>


MR> we had people saying 'trust the science' ,etc etc  when they weren't
MR> reading the science.  and it was hard to keep up because it was
MR> changing every month.

MR> "don't need a mask" "wear a mask" "don't wear a mask" "Wear a mask
MR> indoors by yourself" j/k

MR> "you will die if you don't get the vaccine.  if you get the vaccine you
MR> will never get covid. "

MR> I don't trust the science anymore. everything became political and I
MR> dont trust anything. ---

It wasn't really "science" that was informing their views in many cases though.
People didn't know the science, or how science works.  Science had little to
do with it.

I knew things would turn sour right at the very start.  Before it was declared
a Pandemic, people were in a tizzy over others choosing to stay away from
Chinese establishments.  There was that Mayor of an Italian city who encouraged
people to go out and hug Asians.  From the very beginning people had a
narrative, a heirachy of values to support.

This is the problem with the West, we judge everything ideologically. Is this
"racist".  Is this "bigoted".  Could this be potentially construed or used by
"racists".  Does this fact embolden the right.  So on...

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