Subj : Re: Microsoft
To   : Nightfox
From : Tracker1
Date : Fri Oct 14 2022 07:58 pm

On 10/12/22 21:56, Nightfox wrote:
>
> Not only did later versions of Windows include Internet Explorer,
> Microsoft claimed it was integrated into Windows in such a way that
> it would be difficult to remove it.  That was back when (I think)
> Microsoft was using sneaky tactics to try to corner the market.
> Microsoft also made IE behave a bit differently (in a non-standard
> way) than other web browsers, so by the time IE gained a lot of
> marketshare, some web sites pretty much worked only with IE.

To be fair, the "browser standards" were pretty much crap at the time,
IE and NN were both pushing their own solutions.  Netscape's ILayers
models sucked hardcore, IE's api was better, then the W3C came up with
yet another standard that was different than both, but closer to IE's
implementation. IE5 had theirs mostly implemented at launch and NN took
the better part of a year to catch up, and broke in a lot of ways... IE
broke the older API for manipulating select lists in 5.0.0 (burned on
Windows 2000, Office 2000 and Windows ME discs), man was that a
clusterf*ck to deal with.

When IE6 came out, it was just that far ahead in terms of standards and
advanced features... was a couple years before Firefox/NN had
XmlHttpRequest to catch up.  IIRC it was close to 2006 before it was in
significant use... It was around IE8 (2010?) that IE became much more of
a joke, and not long after Chrome passed them both.

I was working with a company at the time (1999-2001), where I had to
support back to NN 4.04 for one of our biggest clients/users as well as
new browsers (IE5/6)... that was a total mess...  Creating in-browser
charts and stack diagrams that worked across 3 different browser
implementations.  I'm more than happy to deal with the handful of quirks
these days.  NN 4.x was such hot garbage to work with.
--
Michael J. Ryan - [email protected]

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