Subj : Re: Russia's Endgame
To   : Andeddu
From : Moondog
Date : Sat Oct 08 2022 11:21 pm

 Re: Re: Russia's Endgame
 By: Andeddu to Moondog on Sat Oct 08 2022 04:46 pm

>   Re: Re: Russia's Endgame
>   By: Moondog to Andeddu on Thu Oct 06 2022 10:41 pm
>
>  > During the conflict Russia has been losing an average of 500 trained troo
>  > a day.  In the approach to Kherson they lost another 2500 in a day or two
>  > Russia's downfall was a high level of corruption over time.  The taking o
>  > Kie v was thwarted by old dry-rotted Chinese military tires that were nev
>  > replac ed .  New soldiers that have been mobilized are buying their own
>  > winter r
>  > gear and camoflage because 1.5 million uniforms are missing.  They were
>  > eithe
>  > r sold off or the generals who were given funding pocketed the money.
>  >
>  > The Russian's anti-rocket reactive armor has been removed and sold off
>  > several years ago, and the soldiers who stole it were long gone.  The
>  > pictures of armor on the news are of T-62 tanks, which were considered
>  > effective in the early 1960's.  During the onset of war, Russian Su-34's
>  > 37's were ineffective on bombing roles because pilots are trained to fire
>  > precision munitions they hard in small quantities, and were forced to use
>  > their mk I eyeballs to drop (and miss) older dumb bombs.
>  >
>  > If Russia was as well equipped and trained as  we used to think, Russia
>  > would've taken the Ukraine in 2 or three months.  The best upgrade the ne
>  > AK12 was the optics rail to facilitate modern optics, however troops were
>  > not
>  >  issued optics because of the theft concern.  The newly mobilised troops
>  > probably getting AK-74's made in the 70's or even 60's era AK-47's.
>  >
>  > I wouldn't be surprised if they issued every other troop a rifle, and ass
>  > his battle buddy with just a magazine.
>
> I am not too interested in instances of incompetency by the Russian
> government/military or examples of poor logistics and sourcing of equipment
> becuase I know the UK military, along with a number of European forces, are
> a similar state. We, the British, have a load of aircraft carriers with no
> planes which we like to set sail in the Far East to "intimidate" China to no
> avail.
>
> This little border skirmish or proxy war is about much more than Ukraine or
> Russia winning back its former sattelite states. This is a war about global
> energy, resources, currency, trade, and it involves bigger players, such as
> China and the USA.
>
> I can spot a powder keg when it's about to go off and I can see that there i
> much more to this than people give it credit.
>

There is an old adage, "an army travels on it's stomach, " and the troops on
the logistics end have stratgeies regarding transporting vital equipment as
well as keep the supply chain moving reagarding the sourcing and purchase on
new ammo and repair parts.  This is where the Russians screwed up. Assuming
their logistics were on par with what is supposedly being the one of the
largest top fighting forces, even old equipment sitting on shelvess  must be
accounted for, then replaced or upgraded as needed.  If you have a pntry of
perishable foods, you have to rotate your canned goods so that long term
storage items are in safe, edible condition and consumed before they expire,
otherwise you're eating items with 3+ years shelf life and the back of the
pantry is loaded with cans 10 years past the "eat before" date.

The same applies withvehicles sitting in inactive reserve yards.  If you had
a collector's car or race car you store off season, fluids should be checked
and batteries checked and engines  periodically turned over to avoid plugged
fuel filters and radiators when the car is ran hard after taken from storage.
All countries have schedules to maintain secondary or inactive forces kit,
and the term "you cannot manage what you cannot measure" applies to what the
books say you have versus what is in the back of the warehouse.  The
corruption makes it worse when this care taking is factored in to maintaining
the condition of equipment, then the money set aside is spent on personal
weath or items are sold off on the black market.

Another popular saying is the gear you assign your troops was intended for
fighting the last war, and you go war with what you have, then request what
you want along the way.  After Crimea was annexed by Russia close to 10 years
ago, the Ukraine made major upgrades to equipment and finding new ways to
make older eqwuipment more effective.  If you hunt each season, you clean
oil, then store your equipment for next season.  If it sits for several
seasons, you have mold, rot and rust to contend with.  Anything not properly
stored will be easy to find, but take time to remedy.

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