Subj : Re: Russia's Endgame
To : Moondog
From : fusion
Date : Wed Sep 28 2022 11:50 am
On 28 Sep 2022, Moondog said the following...
Mo> I noticed the Russian people protest the war and mobilization, but do not
Mo> openly blame Putin's decision making. Part of that may be propaganda,
Mo> otherwise it is being clever and avoiding being put on a political
Mo> trouble maker list.
Russian people very specificially support this war. 100%. They want it to happen but they don't want to have to participate.
Every post, tiktok, whatever out of Russia is specifically worded and it's
never to say "get out of Ukraine!" or "peace!". It's "look at these shitty conditions and our limited supplies, why should *I* be here. I'm from the city not a serf. Stupid war. Why won't Ukraine give up/sign agreements/take blame. Our men will kill them and take their wives." etc.
Regarding propoganda and being clever.. I think they're on the other side of the dip entirely. Something like: not knowing it's propaganda -> knowing it's propaganda, ignoring it as lies -> knowing it's propaganda, actively promoting it, enjoying the lie. I've heard it several times where they'll compare "our vs your propaganda" .. with no stigma on the word propaganda at all.
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