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Posted by msmash on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @11:40AM from the
closer-look dept.
As media executives look to pop the stock of flagging publicly traded
companies, tech advances are becoming the new gimmick to [45]wow (even
temporarily) the investing class. From a report: When Endeavor CEO Ari
Emanuel opened his company's earnings call with prepared remarks Feb.
28, a casual listener hearing him tout the UFC and WME might have
missed the most interesting part: Emanuel wasn't speaking at all. Well,
he sort of was. The words were his, and the voice was his, but rather
than Emanuel speaking into a microphone (opening remarks on earnings
calls are often pretaped), the comments were the product of a
generative artificial intelligence firm calledâSpeechify. Indeed,
artificial intelligence has been hard to avoid for Wall Street watchers
this year. And it's easy to understand why: AI news has led to share
price surges at companies like BuzzFeed (which uses it and saw its
stock price more than double) and Microsoft (whose rise was in the high
singleâdigits).
After the public release of OpenAI's large language model (LLM) chatbot
ChatGPT (and the stock bounce it gave to Microsoft, which is OpenAI's
tech partner), it seems that every company wants a piece of the AI
action, or at least wants to send the message that it's thinking about
it. Companies with close ties to media and entertainment are no
exception. In his first letter to creators as CEO of YouTube, Neal
Mohan wrote March 1 that "the power of AI is just beginning to emerge
in ways that will reinvent video and make the seemingly impossible
possible," and that it will be a priority for him. Spotify, led by CEO
Daniel Ek, released on Feb. 22 what it is calling an "AI DJ," powered
by technology from OpenAI. The DJ takes the music a Spotify user
listens to and combines it with recommendations from music experts and
an AI-generated voice to create a totally personalized radio show.
Snap, run by Evan Spiegel, released an assistant called "My AI," based
on ChatGPT, bringing the capabilities of that LLM to Snapchat+ users.
And at small digital publishers like the Jonah Peretti-led BuzzFeed and
Arena Group Holdings (the owner of Sports Illustrated), AI is being
touted as a fount of new types of storytelling that "can create
enterprise value for our brands and partners," per Arena Group CEO Ross
Levinsohn. To be sure, AI's potential for transforming business is real
(in a March 2 research report, Morgan Stanley called it a "$6 trillion
opportunity"), but it remains just that: an opportunity, rather than
today's reality. Wall Street is still very bullish on AI in the long
term, with Bank of America's Haim Israel and Martyn Briggs writing in a
Feb. 28 thematic report that AI is "at a defining moment -- like the
internet in the '90s," but the consensus is that while big tech firms
like YouTube owner Alphabet, Amazon and Apple will reap the rewards at
some point, what it means for smaller companies in the present is less
clear. For entertainment companies, the potential is obvious, even if
the business models are not. The Morgan Stanley report noted the logic
in AI recommendations on streaming services like Spotify and Netflix
(Spotify's DJ is a first step in that direction), and it isn't a
stretch to think that content itself can be made faster and at less
cost with generative technology (applications could include special
effects, which are labor intensive and costly). For companies like
Endeavor and CAA, generative voice technology (like that from
Speechify) and deepfake tech (like Deep Voodoo, a deepfake company from
the creators of South Park that counts the CAA-affiliated Connect
Ventures as an investor), could mean new opportunities for old actors
(see Robert Zemeckis' upcoming movie Here, which will use AI from
Metaphysic to de-age Tom Hanks).

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[75]This is not surprising ([76]Score:2)
by [77]nebaz [78]( 453974 ) writes:
Seems like my newsfeed has had tons of articles about how ChatGPT
is going to take my job, everyone else's job, etc. It is a very
impressive product, don't get me wrong. But the hype is insane.
Remember when companies could inflate their value by just adding
'BlockChain' to the company name?
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[79]Re: ([80]Score:2)
by [81]ranton [82]( 36917 ) writes:
But the hype is insane. Remember when companies could inflate
their value by just adding 'BlockChain' to the company name?
This is at least different than Blockchain because AI actually
has real potential benefits. The only question is whether or
not AI use cases are possible. Blockchain was the opposite. It
was clearly possible to technically build blockchains, we just
weren't sure if the results would be worth the trouble.
The level of hype is comparable though. I'd say AI hype is
much higher than blockchain ever was; in my opinion because
the potential benefits are so much higher. Even detractors of
AI hype would mostly admit
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[83]Re: ([84]Score:2)
by [85]ZiggyZiggyZig [86]( 5490070 ) writes:
But what if we did an AI blockchain?
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[87]Re: This is not surprising ([88]Score:2)
by [89]flyingfsck [90]( 986395 ) writes:
There is AI in blockchAIn, but that doesnâ(TM)t make any less
of a train wreck.
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[91]Re: ([92]Score:2)
by [93]Darinbob [94]( 1142669 ) writes:
It's not hard to get a wrong answer from ChatGPT. It is a
natural language processor and chat creator; and it is not a
fact checker, genius, or advice generator. This is only going
to confuse the masses who think that if something is on the
internet is must be true.
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[96]like sheep ([97]Score:5, Insightful)
by [98]argStyopa [99]( 232550 ) writes: on Wednesday March 08, 2023
@11:46AM ([100]#63353259) [101]Journal
...they instinctively follow the leader.
Whether that word is (today) "AI", or (yesterday) "crypto" or (day
before yesterday) "blockchain" they're just like fucking sidewalk
pigeons: if you throw down some breadcrumbs they're so focused on
'being first' that they just FLOCK without really caring about what
they're flocking to.
After all, it's not their money anyway. Win, lose, or draw, they
get their percentage.
And somehow these people generally make orders of magnitude more $
for what they do that actually produces nothing, than do teachers
or most of the rest of us that are gainfully employed. /baffled
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[108]Always the same crap... ([109]Score:2)
by [110]gweihir [111]( 88907 ) writes:
Add some current buzzwords and make a ton of money. It is like
"investors" are not an intelligent species.
Well, to be fair, flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers, nuclear fanatics,
Trump supporters, the "woke", etc. do not have working minds either
and live in their la-la-world instead where their views make sense.
My take is that humanity has had it too easy for the last couple of
hundred years and necessary pruning of the most extreme examples of
stupidity was not done for too long.
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[112]Re: ([113]Score:3)
by [114]Retired Chemist [115]( 5039029 ) writes:
Most people find thinking for themselves too difficult to
bother with. It is easier to join a group and blindly follow
than to actually have your own opinion. Modern communications
just makes it easier to find and join a group.
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[116]Re: ([117]Score:3)
by [118]gweihir [119]( 88907 ) writes:
Indeed. Well said.
And the outcome of that is predictably bad and getting
worse, because these people are then easily turned into
"useful idiots" by modern manipulation techniques. As
long as this goes on we will have to re-think democracy,
because it cannot work under these conditions.
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[120]Re: ([121]Score:2)
by [122]Baron_Yam [123]( 643147 ) writes:
Sure, there's no shortage of stupid / ignorant people
BUT:
Modern life is way too complicated to keep up on
everything. You must trust others unless you want to live
naked in the woods eating berries or whatever.
You trust your mechanic to fix your car so it's safe to
drive, you trust the gas station to pump gas into that
car, etc. If your particular focus isn't on AI
research... you're going to get your information from pop
science articles. And if you're not rich, you're going to
get your investment news
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[124]Re: ([125]Score:2)
by [126]gweihir [127]( 88907 ) writes:
That is a cop-out. Yes, you need to trust experts.
But you can still be have no opinion on things you
do not understand. All it takes is a bit of honesty
and self-awareness. The problem are people
aggressively pushing things they do not understand
and that is just not acceptable.
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[128]Re: ([129]Score:2)
by [130]ranton [131]( 36917 ) writes:
Add some current buzzwords and make a ton of money. It is like
"investors" are not an intelligent species.
Investors are all looking for their next 100x return on
investment to cover their massive losses on most of their
startup investments. So they are going to naturally gravitate
towards any potentially disruptive technology. AI certainly
fits the bill. I cannot off the top of my head think of a more
potentially disruptive technology, so it makes sense that many
investors would be focusing on companies who can convince them
that their company roadmap will be significantly impacted by
AI advancements.
We shall s
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[132]Re: ([133]Score:1)
by [134]Baron_Yam [135]( 643147 ) writes:
>they are going to naturally gravitate towards any
potentially disruptive technology. AI certainly fits the
bill. I cannot off the top of my head think of a more
potentially disruptive technology
The day AI works is the day the entire economic system
crashes and we learn the hard way that we should have
already implemented an alternative.
True AI can do any job a human can. It won't just be
people in a phone center reading from a script who get
turfed, it'll be people with decades of education and
experie
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[136]Re: ([137]Score:3)
by [138]ranton [139]( 36917 ) writes:
The day AI works is the day the entire economic
system crashes [...] True AI can do any job a human
can.
AI already works. You seem to imply AI cannot add
any value until "True AI" (I believe you are
referring to Artificial General Intelligence)
becomes a reality. I strongly disagree with this
belief. Narrow applications of AI have been
providing value since the field of AI began in the
50s. All recent advancements such as ChatGPT are
still examples of narrow AI. The question is whether
the current capabilities of various narrow AI
applications will be capable of transforming the
workplace at the level our cur
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[140]Re: ([141]Score:2)
by [142]Baron_Yam [143]( 643147 ) writes:
We can replace the human body with a robot
right now. Done. EASY.
What we can't do is replace the mind that
intelligently operates it. That's why I'd put
AI first on the list of things to worry about
crashing our economic system. Everything until
then is just baby steps towards that day.
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[144]Re: ([145]Score:2)
by [146]gweihir [147]( 88907 ) writes:
Indeed. You can automatise some things,
but nothing that requires you to think can
be automatized today and there is no
indication that this will ever be
possible. No, really not. Only exception
is if a lot of people have done that
specific thinking about that specific
problem and placed it online and the
mindless statistical classifier was
trained on it. In that case, a human could
have just looked things up as well though.
Of course, this approach does not work at
all without actually thinking humans in
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[148]Re: ([149]Score:2)
by [150]gweihir [151]( 88907 ) writes:
AI already works.
AI has been working on the level it does today
for decades. All that has happened is that it
now sounds good and has a larger training data
set. It is still completely bereft of any
insight and cannot even do simple logical steps
and can do no fact-checking whatsoever. There
is no sane reason for the hype to be started
now.
True, some people are just as mindlessly stupid
on some topics as AI, and there they may get
replaced, but anybody that has an actually
working mind and is willing to use it cannot be
rep
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[152]AI is the new blockchain. ([153]Score:2)
by [154]Fly Swatter [155]( 30498 ) writes:
New fad, yay! Remember to take your profits and walk away.
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[156]AI is 3DTV...it's only pattern matching ([157]Score:1)
by [158]Somervillain [159]( 4719341 ) writes:
New fad, yay! Remember to take your profits and walk away.
You're right. Except, with blockchain, I still don't know why
I should care about it. As a person who has written machine
learning code and worked on ML/AI projects, I would say I
think a slightly better analogy is 3DTV. Remember 10-15 years
ago when the manufacturers were tripping over themselves to
put 3DTV tech in every new television set? We all love the
notion of 3DTV, in theory, but the promise didn't match the
reality. You needed glasses, you had to sit in a certain spot
and little content actua
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[160]Re: ([161]Score:3)
by [162]real_nickname [163]( 6922224 ) writes:
It's novel. It's amusing. Maybe someday it will be
useful.
It's already useful: photo/video processing, games...
Nvidia's DLSS was released in 2019, postprocess using AI
for photos in phones is probably even older. A big chunk
of VCs learned about AI 4 months ago probably and have no
idea what it is and what it's not...
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[164]Re: ([165]Score:2)
by [166]Fly Swatter [167]( 30498 ) writes:
The funny part is that early block chain (ok bitcoin) and
now early AI is only possible now that there exists an
obscene amount of computing power to throw at it. And as
such they are both energy sinks, the former has proven to
be a complete waste and the later is still in the early
stages but at some point someone has to figure out
whether all that energy use is worth it so that some
computer 'AI' can say "hello would you like fries with
that?"
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[168]Re: ([169]Score:2)
by [170]ranton [171]( 36917 ) writes:
Well at least we are trading a fad that was always going to be
vaporware with a fad that at worst could be ahead of its time.
I feel its nearly guaranteed that AI will transform the
economy at the level of the industrial revolution. But whether
that will happen in 20 years or 120 is still unknown. AI hype
in the 80's was certainly ahead of its time. Time will tell
how it goes this time.
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[172]If you want to invest wisely... ([173]Score:2)
by [174]Baron_Yam [175]( 643147 ) writes:
A) Don't invest in anything promoted with the latest fad word.
B) If you must invest in it, do so by creating a company designed
to fleece the idiots throwing money at people who use the latest
fad word.
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[176]Always, your fave has to be Microsoft ([177]Score:2)
by [178]rbrander [179]( 73222 ) writes:
What caught my eye there, out of the whole string of annoucements,
was that MS was investing $10B in Chatbots, the same time as laying
off 10,000 staff. What a ratio! $1 million "invested" per employee
dumped.
Talk about your shift from paying people to paying for equipment!
Putting 10,000 (less expensive) people on MS customer-response
desk, I wonder how much more useful, actually helpful conversation
that would have made possible.
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[180]Re: ([181]Score:2)
by [182]Baron_Yam [183]( 643147 ) writes:
If the Chatbots work out, MS can actually expand their CSR
'staff'.
Also keep in mind that MS pays around $70k + benefits to their
CSRs. You're easily talking 100k each. So that 1m pays off in
10 years or less.
Their tier-1 is useless anyway, a chatbot will probably be an
upgrade as much as I dislike the idea of not having an
intelligent human contact I can explain something to.
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[184]Want to impress me? ([185]Score:2)
by [186]Drethon [187]( 1445051 ) writes:
Make AI work.
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[188]Re:Want to impress me? Make AI work. ([189]Score:1)
by [190]Tablizer [191]( 95088 ) writes:
Sure! Mass porn generation is just around the corner...
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[192]Buzzwords are ruining IT ([193]Score:2)
by [194]Tablizer [195]( 95088 ) writes:
Almost every time a buzzword comes along, not only does adding it
to stacks take time, training, and troubleshooting; but also draws
attention from here-and-now IT concerns.
One example is that everything has to be "responsive" (mobile
friendly). But the current techniques for doing that are a royal
pain, and killed WYSIWYG, which was a big time-saver. So far it's
impossible to make both desktop and mobile happy a the same time
without either a lot of programming or a very long learning curve
with a convolut
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