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The "misinformation problem" seems like misinformation

If anything people have become better informed

  [5]Matthew Yglesias
  5 hr ago
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  People are often misinformed about things. Sometimes they obtain that
  bad information from false or misleading media coverage; sometimes that
  media coverage is deliberately false. And there’s a fine line between
  media coverage that seeks to frame issues appropriately and coverage
  that’s propagandistic.

  All of this is bad.

  Propagandistic media coverage is bad, spreading false information
  deliberately or carelessly is bad, misleading people is bad, and it’s
  unfortunate that voters (and, frankly, elite policymakers) often make
  important decisions operating under misconceptions.

  That said, I do not think there is much evidence that misinformation
  has become more widespread, that this increase in misinformation is due
  to technological change, or that it is at the root of the political
  trends liberals are most angry about. If anything, people seem to be
  better-informed than in the past — which is what you would expect
  because our information technology has gotten better — and it is very
  hard to think of any cure for misinformation that would not be worse
  than the disease.

The internet makes me better informed

  Accusing other people of being misinformed is easy since the stupidity
  of others will always be more evident than our own blind spots.

  But personally, I really do think the internet makes me a lot
  better-informed than I was when I was in high school in the 1990s. And
  I don’t think that’s just because I was in high school; I was a young
  politics dork who read The Economist and small political magazines in
  the school library during free periods.

  Thanks to the internet, I now can and do:
    * Read many abstracts of new academic research, read some actual
      papers, and maintain a vast storehouse of links in case I ever
      decide to write on a particular subject.
    * Directly access think tank output on policy issues, as well as the
      running commentary from think tankers and university scholars on
      the issues that they study.
    * Read Canadian news coverage of interesting events that occur in
      Canada and UK news coverage of interest events that occur in
      Britain. Through the magic of Google Translate, even
      German-language coverage of German politics is pretty accessible.
    * Look up anything I’m curious about. Recently I wondered if the
      government of Slovakia takes a pro-Russian stance (because the
      prime minister is a right-wing populist and right-wing populists
      are often pro-Russian) or a pro-Ukrainian stance (because Central
      European nationalists are often anti-Russian). I [6]quickly
      [7]learned that Eduard Heger is [8]pro-Ukrainian. I also found out
      that U.S. industrial production has recovered to its pre-pandemic
      level, but that the pre-pandemic level itself represented a small
      decline from the actual peak in the summer of 2018.

  It’s amazing that I can do all of that, and it makes me better
  informed. Of course, this is my job. Most people have other things to
  do with their time and perhaps less of an inclination to take advantage
  of the internet’s bounty of information. But I am not the only
  journalist who is able to take advantage of the internet.

  Another thing I look up on the internet from time to time is
  contemporaneous newspaper coverage of old policy debates, and the
  quality of the coverage is just awful by today’s standards — but not
  because the journalists covering the 1990 budget deal were idiots. They
  had to work with analog reporting methods: they had very limited
  ability to put charts in their stories, and they had no ability
  whatsoever to link out to more detailed analysis that would let readers
  dive deeper into some point of detail. Modern journalists are
  better-informed and they create more informative journalism, which
  makes you more informed as a reader — and you’re not the only one.

People seem mostly better informed

  Also thanks to the internet, I can look up whether it’s true that
  people have become more misinformed over time.

  And on the basics of civic life, that doesn’t seem to be the case. A
  survey from the [9]Annenberg Public Policy Center found that in 2006,
  only 33 percent of people could correctly identify the three branches
  of government. By 2021, that was up to 56 percent. That’s way higher
  than 33 percent! It’s also a powerful reminder that a huge share of the
  population doesn’t pay any attention at all to politics and government.
  A broader survey of political knowledge from the American National
  Election Survey shows [10]no change in civic awareness except perhaps a
  small rise since the 1990s in knowledge of which party controls the
  majority in Congress.

  Both of those seem consistent with the idea that politics has gotten
  more polarized and high-stakes, with more people paying attention.

  Joseph Uscinski, a political scientist who literally wrote [11]the book
  on conspiracy theories, painstakingly cataloged old letters to the
  editor and found a fairly [12]constant level of conspiracy theorizing
  in them for over a century.

  Brendan Nyhan, another political scientist who studies misinformation
  in detail, writes in one of his papers that [13]“no systematic evidence
  exists to demonstrate that the prevalence of misperceptions today
  (while worrisome) is worse than in the past.”

  My favorite study about how Facebook is bad finds that it follows what
  you’d essentially call an addiction or compulsion paradigm. If you give
  people a [14]cash incentive to turn off their Facebook account, they
  spend more time watching TV but also more time socializing with friends
  and family. This leads to an increase in their subjective well-being
  (i.e., they’re happier) and generates “a large persistent reduction in
  post-experiment Facebook use.” In other words, people struggle to go
  cold turkey. But once they do, they generally like it. So what about
  misinformation? It turns out that getting offline “reduced both factual
  news knowledge and political polarization.”

  I tend to think that a lot of what is going on is that people see the
  internet increasing polarization — more people are fighting about
  politics and saying things they think are really dumb — and confusing
  that with people being misinformed.

Cranks often know a lot

  When I went on The Joe Rogan Experience in early December of 2020, he
  surprised me by veering way off-topic to do vaccine-skeptical takes.

  Since this is not what my book is about and isn’t something I had
  professional background covering, I was not prepared to rebut his
  talking points effectively. That’s especially true because, at the
  time, the Covid-19 vaccines were loosely Trump-branded, so I wasn’t
  really expecting this to be a controversial issue and hadn’t looked
  into it. Which is just to say that Rogan was actually much better
  informed about the vaccine issue than I was. He (correctly) said the
  common, non-severe side-effects were considerably worse than I
  realized. And he also correctly said that the Phase III clinical trials
  were not long enough to gauge how enduring the protection the vaccines
  offered was. He, as a vaccine skeptic, had sought out a lot of vaccine
  skeptic talking points, and many of those talking points were factually
  true.

  I, a normal sane individual who supports vaccination efforts, never
  bothered to look into anything about it other than when was I going to
  be able to get my shots.

  But this is actually the general pattern in life. A normal person can
  tell you lots of factual information about his life, his work, his
  neighborhood, and his hobbies but very little about the FDA clinical
  trial process or the moon landing. But do you know who knows a ton
  about the moon landing? Crazy people who think it’s fake. They don’t
  have crank opinions because they are misinformed, they have tons and
  tons of moon-related factual information because they’re cranks. If you
  can remember the number of the Kennedy administration executive order
  about reducing troop levels in Vietnam, then you’re probably a crank
  — that EO plays a big role in Kennedy-related conspiracy theories, so
  it’s conspiracy theorists who know all the details.

  More generally, I think a lot of excessive worry about “misinformation”
  is driven by the erroneous belief that more factual information would
  resolve political disputes. Both [15]David Neumark and [16]Arin Dube
  know far more than you or I do about the empirical literature on
  minimum wage increases. Nonetheless, they disagree. It is simply a
  heavily contested question. Relative to Neumark, the typical
  progressive is wildly misinformed about this subject; relative to Dube,
  the typical conservative is wildly misinformed. And lots of political
  disputes have this quality — most people don’t know that much about it,
  but you can find super-informed people on both sides of the question.
  That’s why it’s a live debate.

Anti-vaccine sentiment isn’t new

  When I asked Twitter followers to suggest the best evidence they had
  that misinformation has become worse than it was 30 years ago, a lot of
  people expressed their frustration with the people who won’t get
  Covid-19 vaccines. I also find this extremely frustrating.

  That said, vaccination rates for kids have [17]actually risen since the
  mid-1990s, even as the number of [18]recommended shots has increased. I
  think that is probably mostly due to SCHIP and Medicaid expansion
  putting more children in regular contact with a healthcare provider
  than with anything to do with media coverage. But that in turn is a
  reminder that the focus on social media is probably a mistake.

  A lot of people know that the licensing of the polio vaccine in the
  1950s was widely greeted with celebratory headlines and the ringing of
  church bells. A lot of people also know that as part of a
  pro-vaccination effort led by the March of Dimes, Elvis Presley got
  vaccinated on camera for the Ed Sullivan show. What I think a lot of
  people don’t know is that the [19]announcement came on April 12, 1955,
  and Elvis went on TV in [20]October of 1956. Eighteen months after
  authorization, vaccine uptake was still slow, and that was after a much
  longer development process.

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  More broadly, I think we shouldn’t get cause and effect backward in
  terms of the media and anti-vaccine sentiment.

  In the case of Covid-19, we actually had pretty powerful early
  validators in the form of Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. But every
  time Trump talks about vaccination in a positive way, that seems to
  generate a negative response from his core audience. That dissuades him
  from doing it. Trump, allegedly, is an aspiring statesman, so I think
  it’s fair to say that he should do more to help push good information
  onto his people even if it costs him.

  But in terms of the media, I think it’s much more likely that people
  are seeking out anti-vax content than that they are being brainwashed.
  There is fundamentally no way anyone could be unaware that the bulk of
  public health and medical professionals say the vaccines are safe and
  effective. The anti-vax stance isn’t misinformed about this reality; it
  simply asserts that public health and medical professionals are bad and
  you shouldn’t listen to them.

  Just as the people who voted for Trump in 2016 were surely aware of the
  fact that most credentialed people in America felt he was a bad choice.

Trump and misinformation

  Donald Trump is a huge liar, which generates a natural affinity between
  complaints about Trump and complaints about misinformation.

  But I think this is fundamentally misguided on a number of levels. The
  2016 election generated a lot of discussion of “fake news,” but the
  evidence suggests that a [22]relatively small group of people
  constituted the bulk of the audience for fake news and that those
  people were mostly very right-wing. By contrast, lots of people who
  were not particularly right-wing read the New York Times’
  [23]wall-to-wall coverage of the Hillary Clinton email saga, which
  generated [24]more television coverage than all policy issues combined.
  But critically, that email-centric coverage wasn’t “misinformation.”

  There really was an FBI investigation into Clinton’s email server. She
  really did violate federal policy about email usage. There really was a
  re-launch of the investigation after new copies of already-reviewed
  emails were discovered on her laptop. The coverage was disproportionate
  and absurd but not false, and it appeared in very traditional outlets.

  Meanwhile, if you want to somehow blame zany internet stuff for Trump's
  ability to win, I think you need to grapple with the fact that the
  [25]overall political climate was much more right-wing in the 1990s.
  Bob Dole wanted to [26]kick the U.S.-born children of undocumented
  immigrants out of public school, which is further than Trump ever went.
  Trump’s positions on immigration were covered as more extreme than
  Dole’s because [27]mass opinion is less hostile to immigration than it
  was in the nineties.

  But American politics has been shifting leftward for years.

  I know some people find that absurd. But imagine if Kevin McCarthy gave
  a speech this week where he said “after we retake the House this fall,
  we’re going to fight against wokeness by kicking gay soldiers out of
  the military and curb inflation by privatizing Social Security and
  cutting Medicaid and K-12 school funding.” That would be the best news
  the DCCC and DSCC have heard in years! But it would just mean McCarthy
  was reiterating his support for Paul Ryan’s policy ideas from 10 years
  ago. Meanwhile, Biden’s positions on virtually everything are at least
  a little bit to the left of Obama’s.

  So people vote Republican, I think, not because of “misinformation” but
  because they perceive that the GOP position on many policy topics has
  moderated while the Democratic Party’s has gotten more left-wing. I
  think it’s very possible that the perception of Republican moderation
  is, in fact, a mistake and that their next trifecta will return to hard
  austerity and welfare state rollback. But the idea that they won’t
  isn’t “misinformation” in the sense of bad Facebook memes; it’s
  reflective of the parties’ current arguments and of mainstream coverage
  of those arguments.

  I do think Republicans are misleading people about their economic
  policy agenda, but this is an extremely not-new phenomenon (remember
  the Bush tax cuts or Ronald Reagan’s whoppers about welfare queens).

Truth is a moving target

  Beyond being overstated, I worry that misinformation panic could, over
  time, make discerning the actual truth harder.

  A big part of my job is trying to understand what the credentialed
  experts are saying and where the consensus is. But as anyone who’s paid
  attention to Covid-19 knows, the consensus shifts. Masks were bad, then
  they were good. You were supposed to emphasize the utility of even
  cloth masks to the point where I think we clearly overshot the mark and
  underemphasized the value of a high-quality mask. Trump’s vaccine
  development timeline was too optimistic, but then it turned out to be
  correct. Then the vaccines were more effective than the consensus
  thought they’d be. But then immunity turned out to wane faster than the
  consensus said it would. Boosters went from unnecessary to obligatory
  in a blink of an eye. Thirty months ago, only right-wing cranks said
  the FDA is too hesitant to approve new drugs. [28]Now it’s in Vox, and
  the right-wing crank view is that the FDA is too permissive.

  I think dumbass populists look at this and go “aha! the experts are all
  a cabal of liars and we can ignore them in favor of whatever batshit
  conspiracy theory we like!”

  But rejecting the consensus opinions of qualified experts is not a
  personality, it’s a grudge. It doesn’t give you answers because it
  doesn’t tell you in what direction the error was made. During the
  depths of the Great Recession when the establishment was
  catastrophically under stimulating the economy, there was a mania for
  Rand Paul’s argument that the Fed’s policies were dangerously
  inflationary. But that whole experience created too much complacency,
  and now we really do have inflation.

  I think the only sensible thing to say about all this is that
  discerning the truth is hard, and it requires debate and dissent.
  Functional expert communities and well-run journalism institutions are
  open to new information, to changing their minds, and to correcting the
  record. But that process doesn’t work if the fact-check squad slaps a
  “misinformation” label on you for saying the CDC is wrong about masks.

  [29]As Tyler Cowen wrote last week, it does seem like our overall level
  of public health knowledge is improving rather than getting worse.
  People take the health risks of smoking much more seriously, and
  compliance with seatbelt rules is high even though practical
  enforcement is weak. And, yes, [30]seatbelt mandates were very
  controversial when they were first introduced, and it took years for an
  idea that launched in New York State to be more broadly accepted.

Information and polarization

  The thing that really has increased is polarization and the
  accompanying “everything is about everything” totalizing political
  conflict.

  New York was the first state to mandate seatbelts, and it was a
  somewhat liberal-coded idea. But the bill was spearheaded in the New
  York State Legislature by a Republican. There used to be tons of
  moderate Republicans in northeastern state legislatures, and this kind
  of public health measure that didn’t touch on the core of
  distributional politics was exactly the kind of thing they liked to
  make centrist gestures on. And U.S. Transportation Secretary Elizabeth
  Dole seemed to take a fairly technocratic view of the topic. At the
  same time, Democrats in other states did not face immediate pressure to
  make this a uniform partisan view. There was just much more looseness
  to overall conflict.

  By the same token, we had plenty of conspiracy theories in the past,
  but they weren’t [31]as clearly aligned with partisan politics.

  But it’s worth saying that polarization seems more likely a consequence
  of good information than bad. In times past you’d expect someone like
  Steve Bullock — a locally popular guy who’d won several statewide races
  — to win a Senate seat in a strong year for Democrats, even as Joe
  Biden lost his state. His problem is that today’s voters have a more
  sophisticated grasp of the structure of national political conflict and
  know that a Bullock win would, in practice, empower progressives who
  most Montana voters don’t like.

  Similarly, while liberals make a big deal out of [32]“misinformation”
  as a factor in the [33]rightward shift of Hispanic voters in 2020, what
  [34]Equis Research (among others) find is that the Trump shift was
  concentrated among self-described conservatives.

  Polarization, in other words, is largely a question of people becoming
  more sophisticated about American politics. People vote less on the
  basis of ethnic identity or “Steve Bullock seems like a nice guy” and
  more on the basis of ideological alignment.

  This creates a lot of very real problems for a political system that is
  not built to operate with highly organized, highly ideological
  political parties. But misinformation doesn’t seem to be a significant
  contributor to it. If anything, things are getting harder because
  information has gotten better.
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  [38]Binya
  [39]4 hr ago·edited 4 hr ago

  Wishful thinking drives much of the focus on misinformation. It's
  unpleasant to be disagreed with. It shows people don't share your
  values, or heaven forbid, that you might be wrong. Misinformation
  evades that unpleasantness. People don't really disagree with you,
  they're just misinformed.

  It's part of the broader "politics as entertainment" problem. If your
  top priority is to win elections and enact policy, there's an obvious
  downside to implicitly labelling as stupid those who disagree with you,
  and whom you need to persuade to cross to your side. But if you're just
  trying to feel good about yourself, it's great.
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  [41]Andrew
  [42]5 hr ago

  I think a lot of the misinformation panic comes from the kind of techno
  optimism that a lot of people lived in in the 90s and 00s. That good
  information would drive out bad and basically we’d just end up debating
  marginal tax rates forevermore.

  Almost baked into a lot of that era’s cheerleaders like Thomas Friedman
  is the whole world will one day, soon act like elite westerners and
  there will still be gatekeepers on respectable conversations it will
  just include a bit more diversity.
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