Subj : FILEGATE.ZXX updates
To   : Vincent Coen
From : Janis Kracht
Date : Thu Jun 16 2022 06:47 pm

Vincent,

>> * Originally posted in the FILEGATE echo
>> * Originally posted to Vincent Coen by Janis Kracht
>> * CC'd in netmail to Ward Dossche for his perusal and comment,
>> please.

>> Hello Vincent!

>>> Saturday June 11 2022 13:42, you wrote to me:

>>>> ****    The IFDC FileGate is Copyright by Janis Kracht
>>>> ****
>>>> ****    The IFDC FileGate LOGO Image is Copyright by Janis Kracht
>>>> ****
>>>> ****    The IFDC FileGate system's file archive located in
>>>> ****
>>>> ****    Slaterville Springs NY, USA, is copyright Janis Kracht
>>>> ****

>>> Your point  ?

>> I resigned Fidonet for two months, but did NOT resign as moderator
>> (msg. echos: PDNECHO, FILEGATE, BBBS-ENGLISH, PRISM, RAR, FILE_MOVERS)
>> and I did not resign as moderator/coordinator of a number of _file_
>> echos (PDN, RAR for example). You just _took_ those file echos without
>> even an email.

> Two months is a LONG time in Fido.

The # of months does not matter Vincent.  In the United States, when you create something, you own the copyright whether your register it in the U.S. Copyright office, or not.  Period.

> In any event you are the mod for
> BBBS.ENGLISH
> PRISM
> RAR

Thank you if your list does show that now, since your lists did not display those earlier.

>The areas PDNECHO and FILE_MOVERS are now in your name but the entry is or has
> expired so you will have to submit updates.

I will, for all, this evening most likely unless work becomes very busy tonight.

>> THEN:  _YOU_ gave me exact instructions on HOW to correct these msg.
>> area moderatorship errors so that your lists would reflect me as
>> moderator/coordinator.  This involved my creating 3 copies of your
>> TAGNAME.ECO files for the msg. echos, delivered directly to your
>> 2:25/21 node...   Which I DID.

>> Supposedly I would retain the position of modertor of those msg.
>> echos, but

>> **It DID NOT WORK (look at your inane lists, Vincent)**
>> *This says something about your credibility, Vincent*

>> Now, you and I discussed the idea along the way that you were knocking
>> yourself out so to speak with all the "jobs" you are doing, and I
>> offered to help out ... but then I saw the most recent of your
>> BACKBONE.NA, and filegate.zxx files (filegate.zxx is MY ORIGINAL
>> DOCUMENT, NOT YOURS.  This is covered under copyright laws regarding
>> Intellectual Property in the United States.  If you want to use such a
>> list come up with your OWN name!  Same with the FileGate Distribution,
>> come up with your OWN name!!)

> Here you are totally wrong there is NO copyright on FILEGATE.ZXX or not
> registered at the US Copyright and Patents (dept) that I could trace but in

Point 1: There is a copyright statement  on the document itself, and there always has been such a statement on the file.  If there is NOT such a statement on it now, it is because YOU have removed it.

Point 2: As I said earlier, in the US, as soon as you create something you own the copyright.  Registering it with the USCopyright office is not necessary.

%  The FileGate Archive and this document are copyright [1994-2022] by
%  Janis Kracht, on behalf of the IFDC FileGate Project (service mark).

If YOU want to use MY document, then give me the goddamn credit for creating the document and the filegate, Vincent, and stop pretending like you single-handidly did it all.   "The IFDC FileGate Project" is indeed the work of
many people working together.

> any > case I has to take such over only for the file in order to try and keep
> it up > to date after you LEFT as per your mails on 29th December 2021.
> I do have better thing to do than take over  all the many other areas on,
> after > you quit.

>> What would I like to resolve at least SOME OF THIS CRAP VINCE??

>> 1. Give me back my msg. echos as listed above.  And don't tell me to
>> create some idiotic .ECO files or whatever, just make the f'n changes
>> already.

>> 2. Give me back the PDN and Rar file distribution.  The PDN has never
>> been the victim of a takeover like you pulled off here...

>> And... All of the above are "MY" point, Vincent.
>> It is truly a shame what is going on here. Janis


> Confirm what FDN's you wish to look after and I will have the FILEGATE.ZXX
> list
> updated or transferred from inactive.txt.
> So advise, soon !

I'll submit material this evening or tomorrow AM. Janis

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