Subj : Russia and Ukraine
To   : Alexander Koryagin
From : Alan Ianson
Date : Wed May 25 2022 08:00 am

> Well, indeed, the strategy of the tiger to gobble up a goat in one piece
> has failed. I believe the next one it will be to gnaw its rump. ;)

Good idea.. ;)

>> Of course there are no nazi's in Ukraine. That was all just
>> propaganda for the citizens of Russia to support with the invasion,
>> or "special military operation" as some like to call it.

> Uhu, look at the tatu of captured mariupol angels:
> https://newsofrussia.ru/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/azvostal.jpg

This is what "News of Russia" publishes? You might want to look elsewhere.

Sounds a lot like your "provocative woman" story.

>>> Russian troops are not able to do even now, for a while.
>> Of course not. There is nothing in Ukraine for Russia.

> There is Russian people in Ukraine. ;-)

Those people are Ukrainian.

>> The people of Ukraine elected Zelensky. That was their choice. Did
>> the people of Russia elect Putin? I don't think so.

> Elections in nowadays is a very funny process, even in America. ;-)

The people of Ukraine elected Zelensky, did they not?

> But suppose a situation when some fucking Nazi approach to you and shout
> "Glory Ukraine" and you must shout "Glory to Heroes" the only way to
> keep yourself safe.

You could simply stay in your own country.

>>> Russians in Ukraine will say themselves who are they want to be
>>> free of.

>> There is a fairly basic flaw in your statement. Do you see it?

> I don't see it. If Arabs in Palestine hate Israel occupants the world
> see it perfectly well. So we see the true position of the Russian people
> in Ukraine soon too, especially in southern and eastern Ukraine.

I agree.

> As you see it from your American divan. ;-)

I also see you from my American divan.

> But it is not a Russia aim to "destroy homes, families and lives". There
> is no logic and any sense in that. Ukraine had all means to solve the
> problems without fighting with Russia.

Ukraine never fought with Russia. Never made any threats to fight with Russia. Russia in invaded Ukraine and proceeded to destroy homes, families and lives.

Even today it continues.

> But I repeat that Ukrainian nationalists hated Russia so much that any
>concessions from them had been impossible for 8 years. And now they are
>impossible while an clown-actor stays as a president, who plays it as
> in a movie.

What concessions do you hope for from Ukraine? You won't be getting any.

> What do you think Russian troops would have done to Ukrainian people if
> they allowed Russian troops enter freely? Fighting with Russia was a
> crazy idea for Zelensky and irreconcilable nationalists and a big part
> of the calamity lay on them. Who is guilty more -- people will say it later.

They would have killed Zelensky (they tried serveral times) and installed a puppet government. It would have gone beyond that to what point I am not sure.

Why should the Ukrainian people allow Russian troops enter freely? Would Russia allow Ukrainian troops to enter freely?

>> You blame Zelensky, a man who was just elected in 2019 but as you
>> told me yourself Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and has been
>> supporting the suparatists in the east since then bankrolling
>> salaries to local officials and the separatist military forces.

> No wonder -- Ukraine had blockaded Donbass completely and Russia was
> forced to pay money to all the people living on the blockaded territory,
> not allowing them to die of hunger etc.

Do you actually believe these things you say? ;)

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