The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 18, Number 40             01 Oct 2001
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        Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                       Table of Contents
    1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
    2. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  2
       Continuing the Elist thoughts  ............................  2
       Echolist, And How It's Done in Zone 2 Region 24  ..........  3
    3. COMIX IN ASCII  ...........................................  5
       Cows  .....................................................  5
    4. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ......................................  6
       Dividing the Nuts  ........................................  6
       Some More Church Humor  ...................................  6
    5. OTHER STUFF  ..............................................  8
       This week's Calandar  .....................................  8
    6. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  .................................  9
       Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*  ..........................  9
    7. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 15
       Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 15
    8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 21
       How to Submit an Article  ................................. 21
       Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 22
       Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 23
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                            FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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    "We are all prisoners of the average. This is not merely an
    intuition...it is based on observations too varied to try to organize
    by genus and phyla. So I will just heap them up in front of you:
    darkness and light...yea and nay...heat and cold...good and
    evil...sickness and health...wealth and poverty...beauty and
    ugliness...subjective and objective... positive and negative...big,
    little...high, low...just, unjust...you name it..."

    ---Bill Bonner,  The Daily Reckoning

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                            GENERAL ARTICLES
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                        Continuing the Elist thoughts
                                By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308

     Last week I wrote a small article about thoughts on the Elist in
    Zone1.  It seems that Zone1 isn't the only Zone where an Elist is in
    place. I'm going to continue these thoughts in hopes of merging them
    and see what happens.

     Zone1 has two echomail distributors. The Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) and
    the NAB (North American Backbone). The main difference I see between
    the two backbones is that one purges echos based on traffic and the
    Elisting and the other uses the Elist only. I'm not going to argue the
    pros and cons of purging by traffic. The common factor here is that
    both use the Elist in some way.

    A. The Elist is the basis for what echos are carried in Zone1.
      1. The Elist shows what Network distributes a particular echo.
        a. If the echo is listed for Fidonet distribution, it's a Fidonet
           echo?
        b. If an echo is listed as being from another Network, it is an
           "OtherNet" echo?
      2. If an echo is listed in one Network and another Network wishes to
         distribute that echo, an agreement for gating the echo between
         the Networks must be worked out?

     So, it seems that the Elist is a tool to determine what echos are
    available and from what Network. If an echo is Elisted as an
    "Othernet" echo, it can not be distributed in Fidonet Zone1 and visa
    versa??

     Let's look at this.

     Example: I start an echo with a tag of BACK_TO_BASICS. I Elist it as
    a Fidonet echo for distribution.  An "Othernet" decides to start an
    echo with the same tag. Does the fact that I have it Elisted as a
    Fidonet echo stop them? I doubt it.  Would it stop me from
    distributing the echo if it was Elisted as an "Othernet" echo. Not if
    I wanted to distribute it. Of course, the echo wouldn't be Elisted as
    my echo.

     The thought here is multi-part.

    A. Is the Elist a tool or a rule?
      1. If a tool, then all Echo Tags must be listed or listable?
       a. The fact that one Network has an echo tag listed could not be
          cause for refusing to list the same tag from another network?
        1. There could be 2+ listings for each echo tag. Each listing from
           a different Network?
      2. If a rule, then only Fidonet tags are allowed?
       a. If other tags are allowed, Fidonet tags take priority?
        1. If a tag is listed from an "Othernet", Fidonet could list the
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           same tag and "bump" the "Othernet" tag off the Elist?

    Just some thoughts.

    Regards,

     Frank

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               Echolist, And How It's Done in Zone 2 Region 24
                       By Dennis Alexis Valin Dittrich

    As Frank Vest wrote his thoughts about the Zone 1 elist and because
    there is some dispute about its sense and use I felt the urge to
    comment on his article by explaining how we in Region 24 of Zone 2
    coordinate our echomail conferences.

    First of all, there is some kind of elist. And, there is a collection
    of nodes who act as regional backbone. These nodes are obliged to
    carry all echomail conferences listed in our 'elist'. Most of these
    nodes exchange mail nearly instantaneously using binkd, i.e. fido over
    IP. But this is not what I want to write about.

    How is an echomail conference listed in the Region 24 elist?
    The Grandfather mechanism. Per definition all backbone conferences are
    listed in the Region 24 elist. In order to be a backbone conference
    there has to be a rules file for this echo conference sent to the REC
    which means most times that there is a moderator, too. Some times the
    participants of a conference voted against moderatorship thus there
    are unmoderated conferences on the backbone as well. In the
    corresponding rules file the status unmoderated is then recorded. The
    REC protects these conferences from hijacking. Only a majority vote of
    the participants can install a new moderator and thus change the
    status of this conference.
    The New Born mechanism. Even now in times of declining participation
    in fidonet there is some times need for a new conference. There are
    essentially two ways to get a new conference into the elist. Get it
    distributed by your own and as soon as it has traffic and is available
    in a larger area, i.e. several nets, it is listed in the elist. For
    infomation purposes you can ask the REC to list this conference in a
    list for 'additional echo conferences which are available in the
    region but not neccessarily on the backbone'. The second way to get
    your conference into the region elist and thus onto the backbone is to
    just find some nodes (or even only points) who want this new
    conference. If there are at least 6 nodes from at least 3 different
    nets your conference gets listed in the region elist and thus
    immediately on the backbone.

    What purpose does the region echo conference list have?
    The Region 24 echo conference list acts as centrally coordinated
    forward list for the whole region. If a conference is listed in this
    list you can be sure to get it at your local uplink. Second, there is
    an indicator for the read/write permission showing whether there are
    restrictions or not. Third, name and AKA of the moderator or the
    status unmoderated are recorded. Forth, there will be (at least some)
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    traffic since the REC and the backbone coordinator monitor the traffic
    and drop conferences from the region elist if they lack traffic for a
    specific amount of time. Thus, you always know what topics are covered
    by existing, active conferences in our region.

    When and how is a conferences droped from the region elist?
    If a conference lacks traffic for more than 40 days the moderator will
    be notified that her conference is soon due for deletion. This fact
    will be announced in a special conference as well. Thus, everyone can
    veto the deletion process. Either (s)he just writes a message in the
    conference and thus produces traffic or asks for special protection
    because this conference is known for sporadic traffic due to some
    seasonal effects. Up to now this special treatment was always granted
    if asked for. If a conference lacks traffic for more than 70 days it
    will be droped from the region elist and listed in the region 'kill
    list' instead. Conferences listed in this kill list are automatically
    deleted from all backbone systems.

    The abovementioned lists are weekly generated by the REC using a perl
    script, the rules file archive, the traffic data base which consists
    of the latest traffic statistics of all backbone nodes and some
    control files to cover special cases. These lists are then hatched to
    a region wide distributed file echo. Changes in these lists are
    announced to the abovementioned special echo conference.

    As a last remark, the world wide backbone (WWB) forward list for
    region 24 is derived from the region elist and there are several
    forward lists from other regions of Zone 2, too.
    Michiel, there are elists in Zone 2...

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                             COMIX IN ASCII
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                                     Cows


                            (__)                      (__)
                    ^^      (oo)                      (--)
                ^^^^ /-------\/                      /-\/-\
             ^^^^^  / |     ||                      /|    |\
           ^^^^^   *  ||----||                     ^ |    | ^
        ^^^^^^^^  ====^^====^^====                   |    |
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^/                                   /----\
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                              /    \ \
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^             ^      * ^
         Cow Hanging Ten at Malibu         Cow sunning at Fort Lauderdale
                                               (What a bod, huh guys?)

                   )\               (__)
                  /  \              (oo)
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               Cow swimming at Amityville
    (Where Jaws was filmed, for those less educated)


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                           CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
    =================================================================


    Submitted by [email protected]

                    Dividing the Nuts

     Two boy scouts went on a nature hike in the hills picking hickory
    nuts. Along the way, they filled their small pails and then started to
    fill their pockets and shirts.

    When they could hold no more nuts, they started down the country road
    until they came across a cemetery.  The boys decided that would be a
    good place to stop and rest and divide out the nuts. The two boys sat
    in the shade of a large oak tree and unloaded their pockets and
    buckets by dumping all of the nuts in a large pile.

    In the process, two of them rolled away and rested near the road. The
    boys then proceeded to divide out the nuts. "One for you. One for me.
    One for you. One for me."

    As they were doing this, another boy was passing by and happened to
    hear them. He looked into the cemetery, but could not see the boys,
    because they were obscured by the tree. He hesitated a moment and then
    ran back to town.

    "Father! Father!" he yelled as he entered his house. "The cemetery.
    Come quick!"

    "What's the matter?" his father asked.

    "No time to explain," the boy frantically panted. "Follow me!"

    The boy and his father ran up the country road and stopped when they
    reached the cemetery. They stopped at the side of the road and all
    fell silent for a few moments. Then the father asked his son what was
    wrong.

    "Do you hear that?" he whispered. Both people listened intently and
    heard the Scouts. "One for me. One for you. One for me......"

    The boy then blurted out, "The devil and the Lord are dividing the
    souls!"

    The father was skeptical but silent -- until a few moments later as
    the Scouts completed dividing out the nuts and one Scout said to the
    other, "Now, as soon as we get those two nuts down by the road, we'll
    have them all..."
    :^)

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                            Some More Church Humor

    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 7                    1 Oct 2001


    A little boy was overheard praying: "Lord, if
    you can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it.
    I'm having a real good time like I am."
                        ~~~~~~~~~~
    A Sunday school teacher asked her little
    children, as they were on the way to church service,
    "And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?" One
    bright little girl  replied, "Because people are
    sleeping."
                        ~~~~~~~~~~
    The preacher was wired for sound with a lapel
    microphone, and as he preached, he moved briskly
    about he moved to one side, getting wound up in the
    cord and nearly tripping before jerking it again. After
    several circles and jerks, a little girl in the third pew
    leaned  toward her mother and whispered, "If he gets
    loose,  will he hurt us?"

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                               OTHER STUFF
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                             This week's Calandar

    Day                       Holiday
    1
        Armed Forces Day in Korea, South
        Cyprus Independence Day in Cyprus
        Independence Day in Nigeria
        Independence Day/Tuvalu Day in Tuvalu
        National Day in China
        National Day in Nigeria
        Regency Exchange in San Marino
    2
        Anniversary of Guinean Independence/Independence Day in Guinea
        Mahatma Gandhi's Birthday in India
        Republic Day in Guinea
    3
        Francisco Morazan's Birthday/Morazan Day in Honduras
        National Foundation Day in Korea, South
    4
        Independence Day in Lesotho
    5
        Constitution Day in Vanuatu
        Republic Day/Anniversary of Proclamation of the Republic in
        Portugal
    6
        Armed Forces Day in Egypt
        Labor Day in Australia
        United Nations Day in Barbados
    7
        Day of Goodwill in Namibia
        Merchant Holiday in Antigua and Barbuda

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                        FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
    =================================================================

                       *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 BBS Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    BBBS Home Page
    [email protected]
    http://www.bbbs.net/

    ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
    [email protected]
    http://www.elebbs.com/

    Hermes II Project (Mac)
    [email protected]
    http://www.hermesii.org/

    Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
    [email protected]
    http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

    Mystic BBS
    http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

    Nexus Bulletin Board System
    [email protected]
    http://www.nexusbbs.net/

    Proboard
    Telegrafix Communications Inc.
    [email protected]
    540-678-4050
    http://www.telegrafix.com

    RemoteAccess Central
    Bruce Morse
    [email protected]
    http://www.rapro.com/

    Searchlight
    Telegrafix Communications Inc.
    [email protected]
    540-678-4050
    http://www.telegrafix.com

    Spitfire BBS
    Buffalo Creek Software
    [email protected]
    http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

    Synchronet BBS
    [email protected]
    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 10                   1 Oct 2001


    http://www.synchro.net

    Telegard BBS
    [email protected]
    http://www.telegard.net/

    Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
    Santronics Inc.
    [email protected]
    (305)248-3204
    http://www.santronics.com

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Door Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Bentstone Capabilities Group
    [email protected]
    http://www.srupc.com/mall

    Jibben Software
    [email protected]
    http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

    JNS Software Door Games
    Rusty Johnson
    [email protected]
    304-733-0113
    http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

    PC Pursuits
    [email protected]
    (301)240-6653
    http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

    S and T Software
    Mark Bappe
    [email protected]
    (770)788-6843
    http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

    Shinning Star BBS Doors
    [email protected]
    http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

    Sunrise Door Software
    Al Lawerence
    [email protected]
    (404)256-9518
    http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

    The Brainex System
    [email protected]
    http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

    Trade Wars Door Game
    [email protected]
    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 11                   1 Oct 2001


    http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
    1:299/110

    Vagabond Software
    Bryan Turner
    [email protected]
    http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
    1:124/7013

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                                 Mail Tossers
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    FMail Support
    [email protected]
    http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
    2:280/1076

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                               Mailer Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
    Definite Solutions
    [email protected]
    http://www.defsol.se/


    BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
    http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

    Plantinum Express for Wildcat
    Santronics Inc.
    [email protected]
    (305)248-3204
    http://www.santronics.com

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                        Fidonet via Internet Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Argus
    RITLABS
    [email protected]
    373-2-246889
    http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
    2:469/84

    BinkD
    [email protected]
    http://2f.ru/binkd/

    Fidogate
    [email protected]
    http://www.fidogate.org/

    Fidonet to Internet Mailer
    Bo Bendtsen
    [email protected]
    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 12                   1 Oct 2001


    http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

    GiGo Software
    http://www.gigo.com/

    Internet Rex
    [email protected]
    http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

    Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
    http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

    TransX
    Multiboard Communications Inc.
    [email protected]
    http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
    1:2401/305

    TransNet
    [email protected]
    http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

    Watergate
    [email protected]
    http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Point Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
    http://www.defsol.se/

    JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
    http://www.jetsys.de/

    APoint
    http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
    http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

    CrossPoint ("Original" version)
    http://www.crosspoint.de
    http://www.apoint-mail.de

    CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
    http://www.openxp.com (English)
    http://www.openxp.de (German)

    CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
    http://www.xp2.de

    WinPoint95
    http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

    The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
    http://www.happyarts.de/xp

    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 13                   1 Oct 2001


    Terminate Terminal
    http://www.terminate.com

    PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
    http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

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                     Other Software, Utillities and such
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
    http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

    BGFAX Home Page
    http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

    SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
    http://www.gwinn.com

    NetModem for Windows
    http://www.allensoftware.com

    Com/IP
    <http://pcmicro.com/comip

    Husky - Portable Fido Software
    http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

    cFos Fossil driver
    http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

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                                Dead Links
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      10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
      10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
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     106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
     106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
     107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
     1:134/11  @ Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
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     138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
     140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
     142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
     167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
     167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
     218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
     220/10    | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
     229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
     229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
     229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
     250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
     250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
     250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
     261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
     280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
     297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
     323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
     342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
     360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
     395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
     379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
     379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
     393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
     395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
     396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
     396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
    2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
    2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 18                   1 Oct 2001


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    2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
    2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
    2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
    3613/1275  | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
    3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
    3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
    3651/9     @ Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
    3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
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      22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
      37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
     201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
     211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BN IFCICO      | ???   | n/c
     221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
     236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
     280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
     280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
     280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
     292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
     292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
     292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
     292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
     301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
     332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
     335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
     341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
     344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
     465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
     469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
    FIDONEWS 18-40               Page 19                   1 Oct 2001


     469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
     550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
    2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
    2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
    2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
    2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
    2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
    2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    3830/10    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP, BinkP     | 100Mb | n/c
    5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
    5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
    5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Zone 3
     633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
     640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
     712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
     774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
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     801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
     902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     905/100   | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k  | n/c
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      65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
     653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
     654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
     654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

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                                Nodelist Stats
     INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.271
     File has a Date Stamp of :  9/27/2001
     File Size (uncompressed) :   1206.75 KBytes.

     The Input Nodelist file  has 11132 Nodes in it
     and a total of  14202 non-comment entries.

     The list has     6 Zones listed.
                     67 Region Coordinators listed.
                    497 Network Hosts listed.
                    763 Hubs listed.
                    370 DOWN Nodes listed.
                    849 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                    518 HOLD Nodes listed.

     Administrative overhead = 1333 ( 11.97 %)
     PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 849 (  7.63 %)

     Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
          9600 =   9554 (  85.82 %)
                      (HST's =  206 or   2.16 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                      (CSP's =    2 or   0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                      (PEP's =   16 or   0.17 % "        "    "     "   )
                      (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                      (HAY's =    3 or   0.03 % "        "    "     "   )
                      (V32's = 5407 or  56.59 % "        "    "     "   )
                      (V32B's =  680 or   7.12 % "       "    "     "   )
                      (V42's = 5130 or  53.69 % "        "    "     "   )
                      (V42B's =  732 or   7.66 % "       "    "     "   )
          2400 =    114 (  1.02 %)
          1200 =      8 (  0.07 %)
           300 =    494 (  4.44 %)

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     XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             4350
                     Frontdoor  2.02+
                     Dutchie 2.90c
                     Binkleyterm >2.1
                     D'Bridge <1.3
                     TIMS
    --------------------------------------
     XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                11
                     Dutchie 2.90b
    --------------------------------------
     XC              Opus 1.1                       12
    --------------------------------------
     XP              Seadog                          7
    --------------------------------------
     XR              Opus 1.03                      78
    --------------------------------------
     XW              Fido >12M                     416
                     Tabby
    --------------------------------------
     XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4722
                     Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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     CrashMail capable =   4035 ( 36.25 %)
     MailOnly Nodes    =   5739 ( 51.55 %)
     Listed-Only Nodes =    842 (  7.56 %)

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