CCP/M Meeting Notes, 05/88

Next Meetings: ��

CCP/M and YOU joint meeting.  TUESDAY, May 17, 1988. ��
American Cross in Farmington, CT  6:30 PM - 10:00��
PM.  Topic: BASIC computer programming.  Tom Veile��
is co-ordinating this.  I will have several new��
disks of games written in BASIC (and Pascal) on��
Royal formatted disks and some of the discussion��
could center on how these games were written,��
work, need to be modified to run on Osborne and��
Kaypro etc.

CCP/M:  TUESDAY, June 21.  Newington Public��
Library (Tentative - I still need to ask and make��
sure it's available)  Topic: TBD.  Any ideas? ��
Maybe we ought to bake a cake and have a summer��
birthday party!  Note:  This is the THIRD Tuesday��
in June.  I think YOU is meeting on June 14 th at��
the Lutheran Church in West Hartford for the��
Prodigy product.


The JUNE meeting of CCP/M will take place at a new��
location, the Newington Public Library in��
Newington.  It will be on the THIRD Tuesday, not��
the usual second Tuesday.  This switch (in day)��
was suggested by the SECOND Tuesday date the��
Yankee Osborne Users have chosen for their Prodigy��
meeting.  (Prodigy is a new GEnie/Source-like��
electronic shopping etc. service which will be��
demonstrated at the YOU June xx meeting which will��
take place at Daryl's Lutheran Church.  The��
Newington library has recently been��
renovated and will provide the group a good place��
to meet. The library is on Cedar Street. ��
Directions elsewhere in this newsletter.  Topic: ��
TBD.  Any suggestions? ��



The WordStar meeting was very well attended.  Ray��
Gentle followed up on Al Bolton's Wordstar on the��
Royal installation problems and called MicroPro��
who suggested starting from the generic version��
instead of the Osborne version.  The meeting had��
both experts and newcomers and once again I��
personally feel the needs of those there were not��
fully met.  More planning needs to go into these��
gatherings.  I am looking forward to the upcoming��
BASIC meeting at the American Red Cross in��
Farmington (directions elsewhere).  Al Hathway,��
Tom Veile, Ray Gentle and I have all indicated��
they will conduct Tutorial Session on BASIC. ��
We'll have Royals, Osborne, Kaypro and other��
compueters on hand.  Bring your questions and��
bring your answers.  What do you know about BASIC? ��
What don't you know about BASIC?  See you there.

Echelon Inc. is going thru some changes. Joe��
Wright and Frank Gaude are working on some��
differences they have on who owns what apparently. ��
I called the Echelon number and found that it's��
not in service.  I then called Joe Wright and was��
able to order for $69.95 his NZCOM.  I didn't��
think he wanted to talk about what is going on��
with Echelon so I did not ask. He personally is��
shipping NZCOM (his dynamically reconfigurable��
auto installing ZCPR34/ZRDOS operating system for��
all CP/M compatibles - I can't wait to get it). ��
His address and number are: Alpha Systems Corp,��
711 Chatsworth Place, San Jose, CA  95128 ��
Telephone: (408) 297-5594 .  Howard Goldstein��
(CCP/M) sent the files written by Joe which made��
the Echelon situation known to me.  I called Jim��
Thompson (to get a copy of the latest Z-News,��
which I later discovered I had on my RCP/M) and��
found that Jim was not aware of these inner��
rumblings.  I also indicated to Jim that I had��
indicated to Joe that I was interested in having��
him come to Connecticut for a second Z-Festival. ��
And that I would like him (Jim) to be a part of��
the planning effort. I feel we need to do more to��
make Z System known to our members and will be��
working in the coming months on a plan to do just��
this.  I think NZCOM will help, because it will��
run on any CP/M machine without installation.  I��
feel one of the major blocks to the spreading of��
ZCPR3 etc. has been the complexity and extent of��
the knowledge required to implement it on a given��
machine.  Jim made a remark which interested me.��
The best way I can paraphrase it would be��
something like "The reason Z isn't taking off is��
that there are only a few Self Starters in the��
group."  He may be right.  I don't know.  I��
personally am absolutely fascinated by the��
advances and utility of Z System.  And all it took��
for me was a 44k .LBR file with ZCPR3 installed��
for the Kaypro and Tom Chesley, Jeff Moore and Jim��
Thompson.  I was hooked forever. ��

Which may mean all we need to do for the Royal and��
the 128 and Osborne and Kaypro etc. owner for��
example is show them NZCOM and then it's theirs��
(for $69.95 this time.) There's so much to do...

Royal F1/F2 drive update.  We have at least 5��
people that I think would pay between $150 and��
$199 for an F2 or F1 drive for their Royal��
computers.  John Williams has successfully��
assembled and tested an F2.  He is building the F1��
controller now.  He is very interested in learning��
how hot the market is for these drives.  RR��
Salvage built 20 F2's and as far as I know there��
may still be some left.  They honored the $138��
price I bought my F2 at (but only recently got). ��
I believe they are asking $199 for the F2.  If you��
want an F1 or F2, make yourself known by either��
contacting CCP/M or calling John himself. His��
number is (413) 773-8114.

I attended the most recent executive meeting of��
the Yankee Osborne Users and want to tell you a��
little about what happened. It was held at Denny's��
Restaurant per usual. Daryl was not there. He had��
other committments. Bob Forsberg chaired the��
meeting.  Much was discussed but the one thing I'd��
like to mention was the possibility of having a��
joint Picnic which not only included YOU and CCP/M��
but also the recently reviving BPMUG and CTHUG. ��
My feelings on this: the more the better.  Each of��
our groups is evolving and I think we need to��
jointly pursue the future and its challenges on a��
frequent basis.  I think the Joint Picnic is a��
good way to start this process. What do you think? ��
On another matter, a mega issue for members only��
was again discussed by Mort Fabricant. It would��
contain membership list, library index, financial��
report, newsletter index etc.  We're still working��
on this.  Finally, Ray Gentle and I are��
considering a joint usage and standard policy for��
th CCP/M and YOU PD Software Libraries.  There's��
been a tremendous amount of excellent material��
sent to my Mouse House in the last year which��
needs to be incorporated into our library. And��
Ray's library has a great deal of material we��
don't have.  Making this material available and��
known to the membership is a top priority project��
for both Ray and me.  Stay tuned.  Help out.

Finally, Jim Taylor and I (who represent the��
Serafino Restaurant Planning Committee...) are��
trying to come up with a Proposed Newsletter��
Submission and Planning Policy.  PNSPP v. 1 is on��
my board as a private file right now (it's called��
something else but...)  It talks of consistent��
categories of news (BASICly FUN, Z News, Meeting��
Notes, Pres. Ponderings, For Sale, new PD software��
news), submission criteria (on disk if at all��
possible, WS 50 col. etc.), deadline, length��
limitation etc.  Right now, the newsletter is��
getting a little ungainly in certain ways and we��
need to make it clearer how we are going to run��
this publication.  Speaking of newsletters, I saw �
my first FOGHORN and have borrowed two issues from��
Ray Gentle and Bob Forsberg.  It's truely a��
masterpiece.  One of the points made in Daryl��
Gehlbach's President's Report and I quote it was:��
"I would like to strongly urge CCP/M members to join��
FOG and CCP/M to become an AMO.  The benefits,��
especially at this time, make it well worth the��
investment."  I agree.  I will be recommending to��
CCP/M in June that we do become an AMO (Affiliated��
Member Organization I believe is what AMO stands��
for). ��

Gotta run. See you Tuesday, May 17, at the��
American Red Cross.  Now I got to find the file��
REDCROSS.MAP as published in Volume 6 Number 6. ��
Finally, you should be getting your official��
membership card in this newsletter as created by��
Treasurer and BASIC guru Tom Veile if you are a��
CCP/M member.  If you don't see any blue��
membership card, you are either��

1. not a member of CCP/M   (action : join!)
2. a member, but card was hand delivered
3. I screwed up and didn't send them to Bob��
Forsberg
4. Bob and Walt forgot to put them in the��
newsletter
5. It fell out of the newsletter.