BTN:  Birmingham Telecommunications News

COPYRIGHT 1993            ISSN 1055-4548

February 1993    Volume 6, Issue 2
                          Edition 1

Table Of Contents
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Article Title                                  Author
Policy Statement and Disclaimer................Staff
From The Editor................................Scott Hollifield
Letters to the Editor..........................BTN Readers
American BBS Association.......................Rocky Rawlins
Review of PKZIP 2.04e..........................Mark Maisel
BBSing in the Real World.......................Damion Furi
Our Wonderful State............................Lurch Henson
U.S. Robotics V.FAST Announcement..............U.S. Robotics
Local Music In February........................Judy Ranelli
BBS Spotlight: Sperry..........................Eric Hunt
Special Interest Groups (SIGs).................Barry Bowden
Known BBS Numbers..............................Staff

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Disclaimer and Statement of Policy for BTN

We at BTN try our best to assure the accuracy of articles and
information in our publication.  We assume no responsibility for damage
due to errors, omissions, etc.  The liability, if any for BTN, its
editors and writers, for damages relating to any errors or omissions,
etc., shall be limited to the cost of a one year subscription to BTN,
even if BTN, its editors or writers have been advised of the likelihood
of such damages occurring.

With the conclusion of that nasty business, we can get on with our
policy for publication and reproduction of BTN articles.  We publish
monthly with a deadline of the fifteenth of the month prior to
publication.  If you wish to submit an article, you may do so at any
time but bear in mind the deadline if you wish for your work to appear
in a particular issue.  It is not our purpose to slander or otherwise
harm a person or reputation and we accept no responsibility for the
content of the articles prepared by our writers.  Our writers own their
work and it is protected by copyright.  We allow reprinting of articles
from BTN with only a few restrictions.  The author may object to a
reprint, in which case he will specify in the content of his article.
Otherwise, please feel free to reproduce any article from BTN as long as
the source, BTN, is specified, and as long as the author's name and the
article's original title are retained.  If you use one of our articles,
please forward a copy of your publication to:

Mark Maisel
Publisher, BTN
606 Twin Branch Terrace
BHAM, AL 35216
(205) 823-3956

We thank you for taking the time to read our offering and we hope that
you like it.  We also reserve the right to have a good time while doing
all of this and not get too serious about it.

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        F R E E B I E :  G E T  I T  W H I L E  I T S  H O T !

The following boards allow BTN to be downloaded freely, that is with no
charge to any existing upload/download ratios.

ADAnet One              Alter-Ego               Bone Yard
Bus System              Channel 8250            Crunchy Frog
DC Info Exchange        F/X BBS                 Gateway BBS
Homewood's Hell Hole    Joker's Castle          Lemon Grove
Martyrdom Again?!       The MATRIX              Milliways BBS
Night Watch             The Outer Limits        Owlabama BBS
Owl's Nest              Playground              Safe Harbor
Southern Stallion       Starbase 12             Teasers BBS
T.G.U.E. BBS            Thy Master's Dungeon    Weekends BBS


(Please note that this list includes some systems which are not local to
Birmingham and therefore not included on our BBS Numbers list.)

I think I may have omitted a system or two this month, so pay attention
to the list for a change.  If you are a sysop and you allow BTN to be
downloaded freely, please let me know via The Matrix or Crunchy Frog so
that I can post your board as a free BTN distributor.  Thanks.  SH

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                          N E W S  F L A S H


                   ANNOUNCING THE FORMATION OF THE
                      AMERICAN BBS ASSOCIATION!
                       See article for details.


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From the Editor
by Scott Hollifield

   To begin with this month, I have a public confession to make.  It's
something which I was hoping to hide from everyone, but recent events
have come to light which make it impossible for me to continue to remain
silent on this matter.
   I have a severe health problem which has only been recently
diagnosed.  The medical term for it is ranidaecrunchinumeronesia.  It's
a very rare, very particular disease - put simply, it is a neurological
disorder which shuts down the pathways of the brain that allow people
who are editors of BTN to remember and accurately record the correct
phone numbers belonging to a BBS called the Crunchy Frog.
   Very serious.  My family has not been informed, and I hope to keep
them out of it, for obvious reasons, but I thought my friends should
know.  It's something which has chronically impaired my ability to
function for the last two months, and the final blow came in last
month's issue of BTN, where, thinking that I had conquered my problem,
I proudly announced that the "correct" numbers for Crunchy Frog had been
listed, finally.  Sadly, such was not the case.
   However, there is hope on the horizon.  With the support of friends
and staff colleagues, great care has been taken to ensure that the
Crunchy Frog's number has been accurately represented as of this issue.
The disease is in remission, and although I know that it will be a long
journey back to normality, I am confident that we can all get through
this.  Thank you all for everything.

   Now then, I feel I really should repeat something I said last issue,
and that is that BTN needs articles, desperately, surely, madly.
There's plenty to write about these days; I have a few ideas myself
which, conveniently, are going to wait until next month.  And everyone
should also be aware that BTN's fifth anniversary is coming up in May.
Why?  Because it's important, damn it.

   This month, we are carrying a special feature which you may have
already seen if you're a regular on The Matrix.  Rocky Rawlins has
recently formed the American BBS Association, a very good idea whose
time has come, and something which BTN plans to support in anyway
possible.  In this issue, you'll find the purpose and background of the
ABBSA, plus an application for any sysops who might want to join.
Explicit instructions are given in the article for doing so.
   Also, regulars Lurch Henson and Damion Furi (how did I get stuck
with these guys?) have a few things to say to you, and Judy Ranelli, our
emissary from the local music scene, is quite prepared to tell you which
bands you should go watch.  And lest I forget, the new version of PKZip
which has everyone in a dither lately is reviewed herein, by our
esteemed publisher.  That plus the usual odds and ends (er, pending
publication at press time) make up this issue of BTN.  See you next
time.


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Letters to the Editor

From: Mark Shafer

Dear Editor,
   I have a problem.  I am engaged to a wonderful lady and am planning
to finalize the wedding date with her.  I come from a family of 4
brothers and herein lies the problem.  My older brother Jeff is in
prison for the rape of a 14 year old and will not be released for
another 12 years.  My next older brother Bob is gay and living with two
other homosexuals.  My younger brother is on the run from the police.
It seems they want him for bank robbery and killing a bank guard.  And
my youngest brother is a computer programmer working for IBM...  My
problem is: Should I tell my fiance about my brother the computer
programmer?

[Ed.:  Yes.  If IBM keeps going the way it is, you may have to take care
of him for a while.]


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                     THE AMERICAN BBS ASSOCIATION

                            Rocky Rawlins


I:  PURPOSE

The American BBS Association (ABBSA) exists to provide an umbrella advocacy
organization for BBS operators. ABBSA is organized roughly on the model used
by the Better Business Bureau.

The ABBSA National Office is in Birmingham, Alabama based at The MATRIX
BBS. The ABBSA National Support Conference is available for echo from The
MATRIX at no cost other than normal Long Distance charges. The MATRIX BBS
is accessible at 300-2400 baud at (205) 323-2016 and at 9600+ baud at
(205) 323-6016. The MATRIX BBS is a subscription BBS however ABBSA Sysops
will be given Visiting Sysop status (90 minutes a day and full access) at
no charge.

The National ABBSA Office can also be reached on the Internet as
[email protected] and the Alabama Chapter as [email protected].
The National and Alabama ABBSA voice number is (205) 251-9347.

The ABBSA is organized on a State Basis. i.e. we are currently forming the
Alabama Chapter of the ABBSA here in Alabama. The National Office of the
ABBSA functions ONLY as an Advisory and Coordinating center for State
Chapters and State Chapters retain complete independence. If you are
interested in forming a State Chapter, please contact us through one of
the above channels. There are no fees or costs required for formation of
a State Chapter.

The goals of the ABBSA are simple in conception though perhaps more difficult
to carry out.

             American BBS Association Policy and Goals

1. Educate the public about the purposes, potential, and benefits of
  Electronic Communications.
2. Monitor the media for inaccurate and misleading information
  regarding BBS activity and take steps to correct such misinformation.
3. Regularly inform the media of significant events in the local BBS
  community.
4. Serve as a source of information for individuals or organizations
  seeking information about BBS.
5. Inform ABBSA member BBS of significant legislation or other actions
  which affect the BBS community.


Membership in ABBSA requires only that a BBS Sysop agree to "support the
Ethical Standards" of the ABBSA. No "enforcement" mechanism exists other
than the right of the Chairman of a State Chapter to revoke the membership
of a state BBS after consultation with other members. ABBSA Member Sysops
may elect a new Chairman of a State Chapter at any time on a majority
vote.

NO DUES OR FEES ARE REQUIRED FOR MEMBERSHIP IN ABBSA.

Every member of ABBSA may post on their BBS that they are a member of
the ABBSA and all members are strongly encouraged to post the ABBSA
Ethical Standards on their BBS as a bulletin or in some other accessible
manner.



II:  BACKGROUND


The American BBS Association was formed as a result of media activity in
the Birmingham, Alabama area. A local station aired sensationalist stories
about children accessing "dirty pictures" on local BBS. Local Sysops made
numerous attempts to contact the management of the station to discuss the
misperceptions being reinforced by such reporting. The reaction of the
local station was to completely ignore the members of the local BBS
community.

This was particularly disturbing in light of the contributions of the BBS
community to the state and city. Local BBS provided free Email to the
Gulf states during the war for family members and friends to communicate
with personnel assigned there. Local Sysops provided extensive forums for
local and national candidates and campaigns to communicate with the public.
Many local BBS provide a variety of free services in support of the local
schools, charity organizations, Police Departments. The BBS community
provides Internet and other International communications capability that
is not available through any other channel in the state for individuals.

Despite the more than a decade of service and support of the local
community and business, local media completely ignores the benefits and
contribution of the local BBS community in preference for stories that
promulgate old stereotypes and sensational implications. With the growing
visibility of BBS but a deep ignorance of what a BBS is, this trend is
certain to grow unless we take positive action.

While the efforts of individual Sysops can easily be ignored by a media
organization, imagine the effects of phone calls and letters from hundreds
of Sysops and Users across the State in conjunction with Press Releases and
Press Conferences from the State ABBSA Chapter.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation is doing a wonderful job on the National
level to address many of the legislative, legal, and social issues that
affect the Electronic Community. But they have neither the resouces nor the
emphasis to address problems on the local level. The ABBSA is oriented to
fill that vacuumn and to address the isssues that affect all of us on
a local level.

Past efforts to form a National level organization of BBS or Sysops have
foundered on the rocks of "control" and "authority". Being Sysops ourselves
we have the natural loathing for anyone telling us how to run our boards or
to try to impose a set of rules on us. BBSing is a good example of "anarchy
in action". But the vast majority of Sysops share common goals and standards.
The intention of the ABBSA is to "codify" those common standards and goals in
a written form with which we can all agree but which do not in any way
interfere with our personal control of our individual BBS.

We believe the Ethical Standards of the ABBSA are ones with which all Sysops
can readily agree and support since they simply echo existing standards.

The growth of the ABBSA provides every member BBS with a platform from which
to communicate with the media, legislators, and the public. With a set of
Public Ethical Standards and a formal organization, we can much more
effectively combat the hysteria, stereotypes, and sensationalist image that
is emerging more and more in the public eye. The continued growth of the
local, national and world BBS community is dependent on an accurate public
understanding of the potential and benefits of electronic communications.

We encourage all Sysops to support the ABBSA by becoming a member and
publically posting your support of the goals and Ethical Standards of the
ABBSA.


III:  REQUIREMENTS FOR MEMBERSHIP

1. Operate an Electronic Bulletin Board System (BBS), Public or
  Private, Free or Subscription which is available 24 hours a day.
2. Sign and return your agreement with the ABBSA Ethical Standards to
  either your State ABBSA Chapter or the National ABBSA Office.


           American BBS Association Ethical Standards

1. I will not use or allow my BBS to be used for illegal activity.

2. I will not allow my BBS to be used to distribute Pirated or
  Copyrighted software except where software Copyright and\or License
  agreements specifically allow electronic distribution and if such
  software is uploaded to my board without my knowledge I will remove
  it when I am made aware of it.

3. I will restrict access to adult material by minors and I will make
  ALL REASONABLE EFFORTS to verify that a caller is 21 years of age
  before allowing that caller access to adult material.

4. If I run a Public BBS I will not refuse access to any individual
  on the basis of age, sex, religion, race, or ethnic origin except
  restrictions to specific conferences that are necessary to provide
  Private Conferences for particular age, sex, religious, racial or
  ethnic groups.

5. I will support and promote the Right of Freedom of Speech and the
  free exchange of ideas among individuals.

I REQUEST MEMBERSHIP IN THE AMERICAN BBS ASSOCIATION. I OPERATE A FULL
TIME BBS AND I SUPPORT THE ETHICAL STANDARDS OF THE AMERICAN BBS
ASSOCIATION. I AGREE TO OPERATE MY BBS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THESE ETHICAL
STANDARDS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.


Signature _____________________________________   Date ___________

BBS Name:______________________________________

BBS Phone Number(s) ___________________________

Sysop Name and Address:___________________________________

                      ___________________________________

                      ___________________________________

                      ___________________________________

Sysop Phone number:    (   )    -

Sysop Internet address:___________________________________ (if available)


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                  (end of ABBSA membership application)


(The name and addresses of Member Sysops are considered Confidential and     )
(will not be provided to others without explicit permission of the individual)
(Sysop. BBS names and phone numbers are considered Public Information unless )
(you specfically request otherwise.                                          )

If you wish to become a Member BBS of the American BBS Association, simply
sign this statement and mail a copy to your State ABBSA Chapter or to the
American BBS Association National Office at the addresses listed below.

Upon signing and mailing this statement you are entitled to post a notice
on your BBS for up to 90 days that you are a temporary:

                Member of the American BBS Association
                       (your_state Chapter) [if desired]

pending receipt of an acknowledgment from either your State or the National
ABBSA office that your application has been received after which you are a
permanent ABBSA member unless such membership is revoked by the State or
National Office. You are also encouraged to post ABBSA.BLT as a public
bulletin on your system.

* NATIONAL ABBSA CONTACTS:

ABBSA National Office
                    (voice)         (205) 251-9347
                    (Internet)      [email protected]

Mailing address:         American BBS Association
                        1426 11th St. South
                        Birmingham, AL 35205


* STATE ABBSA CONTACTS:

Alabama ABBSA Chapter Office
                    (voice)         (205) 251-9347
                    (Internet)      [email protected]

Mailing address:         Alabama ABBSA Chapter
                        1426 11th St. South
                        Birmingham, AL 35205


The ABBSA National Support Conference is accessible for messages or echoing
on The MATRIX BBS in Birmingham, AL at:

                     300-2400       (205) 323-2016
                     9600+          (205) 323-6016


    (American BBS Association and ABBSA are Service Marks of)
    (          the American BBS Association (1992)          )

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Review & Comparison of PKZIP 2.04e versus PKZIP 1.10
by Mark Maisel

    With the long awaited release of the newest version of PKZIP for
MS-DOS machines, I thought it would be a good idea to compare the new
with the old as part of my evaluation.  You'll first find a quick
reference table below followed by summaries of each file type and how
well the versions of PKZIP handled them.  There were several bugs
reported within days of the release of PKZIP 2.04c.  The version I used
for this review, 2.04e, is the release containing fixes for the problems
first found in the new release.  In my use of both 2.04c and 2.04e, I
had no problems but there were enough users with problems to warrant a
fix.   DO NOT USE 2.04c, especially if you are running a machine with
EMS, XMS, or any other memory above 640K.

    The following results were obtained from the use of the following
machine:  486DX-33mhz computer with 256K static cache, 20 megabytes of
memory (RAM), and 670 megabyte SCSI hard drive (15ms).  On different
machines, your results will vary, but should be consistent with the
degree or percentage of change found with each sample.


Filename       Original Size    PKZIP 1.10  PKZIP 2.04e
-------------------------------------------------------
*.BAT              1,483          2,816       2,701 ->This is not an error
A4.EXE         2,046,936        946,117     853,978
CALLER1        1,644,480        231,697     173,417
COMMAND.COM       47,845         30,086      28,967
ETUBE.FLI      1,281,254        763,747     703,908
GODPHONE.TIF     881,496        652,814     606,629
PSTYLER.EXE    1,007,824        507,924     462,349
ROBOCOMM.LOG     103,499         17,768      14,536


*.BAT: 18 very small batch files with sizes ranging from 14 to 331
      bytes.

              Time Required       Size in Bytes

*.BAT                                   1483 ->This is not an error

PKZIP 1.10     0 seconds                2816
PKZIP 2.04e    0 seconds                2701

    Speed improvement is negligible on this system.  Compression
improvement is roughly 4%.  The actual space required to store the file
created by both versions of PKZIP exceeded the space, in bytes, used by
the uncompressed files. As most hard drives use a 512 byte or larger
sector size, the ZIP'ed file does use less room.  I would not, however,
recommend ZIP'ing your batch files if you use them regularly, except for
purposes of backup.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

A4.EXE: The executable file for the database program, Alpha4, containing
       overlays.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

A4.EXE                             2,046,936

PKZIP 1.10     38 seconds            946,117
PKZIP 2.04e    32 seconds            853,978

    Speed improvement is roughly 16%. Both versions did a pretty good
job of compressing the file.  The new version did a better job by
roughly 10%.  For purposes of saving space, PKZIP seems appropriate if
you aren't going to be using this file often, or if you have the luxury
of being able to decompress a program into a RAMDISK for execution.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CALLER1: The caller log from a popular bbs.  This ASCII text file
        contains much repetitive information and should compress well.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

CALLER1                            1,644,480

PKZIP 1.10     28 seconds            231,697
PKZIP 2.04e    13 seconds            173,417

    Speed improvement is roughly 54%. Both versions did a pretty good
job of compressing the file.  The new version did a better job by
roughly 25%.  This is especially impressive since it took less than half
the time of the old version.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

COMMAND.COM: This file is the command interpreter for MS-DOS 5.0.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

COMMAND.COM                           47,845

PKZIP 1.10      1 second              30,086
PKZIP 2.04e     1 second              28,967

    Speed improvement is negligible on this system.  Compression
improvement is roughly 4%.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ETUBE.FLI: This file is a product of Autodesk Animator.  It is graphics
          data sequenced for animation.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

ETUBE.FLI                          1,281,254

PKZIP 1.10     18 seconds            763,747
PKZIP 2.04e    25 seconds            703,908

    Speed improvement is non-existent since none occurred.  I attribute
the slower time to PKZIP attempting to optimize its compression for
graphics data.  This is speculation.  Compression improvement is roughly
8%.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

GODPHONE.TIF: This file is a 24 bit uncompressed TIFF, scanned from a
             color photograph of a friend.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

GODPHONE.TIF                         881,496

PKZIP 1.10     19 seconds            652,814
PKZIP 2.04e    22 seconds            606,629

    Speed improvement is non-existent since none occurred.  I attribute
the slower time to PKZIP attempting to optimize its compression for
graphics data.  This is speculation.  Compression improvement is roughly
7%.  For data such as this, a good implementation of JPEG graphics
compression would be far more suitable.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

PSTYLER.EXE: This file is the Windows executable for Photo Styler.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

PSTYLER.EXE                        1,007,824

PKZIP 1.10     17 seconds            507,924
PKZIP 2.04e    16 seconds            462,349

    Speed improvement is roughly 6%.  The new version compressed better
by roughly 8%.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ROBOCOMM.LOG: This file is a small log, generated by Robocomm.  It is
             ASCII text and has many repetitive elements.

           Time Required       Size in Bytes

ROBOCOMM.LOG                         103,499

PKZIP 1.10      1 second              17,768
PKZIP 2.04e     1 second              14,536

    The speed improvement is negligible, but that is attributable in
large part to my hardware/software configuration.  The compression with
the new version is roughly 18% better.

                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    All in all, I am very pleased with the latest release of PKZIP.  I
wish it had come out sooner as it had been advertised for well over a
year prior to its arrival.  I also found it curious that so many
problems cropped up when it was released given the exhaustive incubation
period it has had.  I experienced no problems, but others did with
2.04c.  Be sure to use 2.04e if you decide to try or use the new PKZIP.

    So far as I know, PKWARE has not released compatible versions for
any other platforms.  Be considerate of Amiga, OS/2, Atari, and others
who use either PKWARE or other incarnations of a ZIP compression scheme.
Perhaps if enough of you folks out there who are one of the above
platforms let PKWARE know you want a new version, you'll get one.  Good
luck!

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                   BBSing In The Real World

                              by

                          Damion Furi



    I still haven't called CompuServe, GEnie, or any other LD BBS,
in the seven or eight months that I've had my modem.  Why not?
Well, I understand that most BTN readers have been using modems
longer than I've been interested in computers, but our local area
BBSs are still so FULL of wonderful things that I've just never
gotten around to calling long distance services.
    I think there are a lot of users that take our local area BBSs
for granted.  I KNOW I've caught myself thinking of The Matrix as
a kind of extended personal hard drive - instead of telling Rocky,
for example, "Hey, thanks!  I appreciate all your hard work, of
which I have been an occasional beneficiary!"
    For example, I D/Led IntelliComm from Owlabama Mensa News and
BBSEE from The Matrix.  I am currently in the process of setting up
IntelliComm for automated mail and file runs.  Intellicomm will be
tied to my private BBS to run as an event at weird o'clock in the
morning while I'm asleep.  A separate event (if I can rig it) will
run BBSEE, an offline file manager that can pull NEWFILES.DAT from
QWK packets and append the listing to the existing catalog for a
specified board (I think; I'm still reading the docs).
    When I wake up in the morning, my mail will be waiting for me,
and my file catalogs will be updated (I hope).  I will have a
complete list of all the files I have on- and offline, as well as
a constantly updated file listing for the boards I use most often.
Theoretically, I could find the files I want while offline, set up
IntelliComm to leech `em while I'm innocently asleep, and have
Christmas every day.  If I could find a program to keep tabs on my
UL/DL ratios, catalog which files I've sent where and when, and
warn me before a sysop decides I'm a Grade A Leech, I think I would
be set for life.  Well, I would be happy for awhile, anyway.
    To me, all this is ultra cool!  And I owe it all to our local
boards!  Sure, CompuServe probably has all this stuff, and more.
But I got this locally, and I don't have to worry about any
expenses except registration fees; as opposed to LD charges (or
subscription fees) AND registration fees.
    Another reason I haven't called LD is due to the plethora of
netted BBSs in and around Birmingham.  I can call Owlabama Mensa
News and talk to somebody in Australia or the U.K.  (Or, I could
call The Matrix and probably talk to Martians...!  If Rocky adds
another net to that board, I think it will either collapse or
implode.)  I am very heavily involved in several ALAnet subs, and
I barely have time to keep up with that.  If I called CompuServe,
I think I would probably become One with my PC.
    A third reason I haven't called LD is lack of money.  But I
think that's beside the point...

    One of these days I will have enough "discretionary income" to
subscribe to all of the boards I would like to support...Owlabama
Mensa News, The Matrix, Nirvana, Teaser's, The Drawing Room,
DiskTop Publishing, NightBreed, and half a dozen more.  So far, the
only board to which I've subscribed is Baudville.
    I suppose that it's just as well that I'm broke; with a list
like mine, I would just be a broke subscriber.



------
    Damion Furi owns Freelance Support Services, an administrative
    and computer support service primarily serving other
    freelancers, which he runs from home.

    Services include OCR & color scanning, desktop & disktop
    publishing (including AutoDesk animation), managerial, and
    administrative services.

    For a current list of services, E-Mail your request c/o
    Nirvana, Owlabama, Teaser's, The Matrix, or Baudville.

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                         Our Wonderful State

                                 or

                   Yet More Stupidity from on High

                                 by

                             Lurch Henson



  Well, well, well.....I missed a month.....  No one noticed, did they?
I got swamped with work, and illness, but what happened to the rest of
you?  Poor little Scott having to go to archives to fill out the
issue....  Well, with any luck that won't happen again.  (Yeah, right.)

  One morning at work, not long after "Young and Elder" came on the
radio, I heard them making some comment about a judge ruling that the
Conferate flag couldn't be flown on state buildings anymore....  Jeez,
don't courts have ANYTHING better to do?  I don't know, something like
getting rid of the backlog of cases about silly little things like rape,
murder, arson, armed robbery, etc., etc., etc.?  No, of course not.  How
silly of me to think so.  I should know better by now, shouldn't I?
I myself think this is a bunch of "hooey" anyway....the reasons they
give for getting rid of the thing are all fine and good.....over 100
years ago.  I myself know of very few people that fly, or display, the
Rebel (no longer Confederate, just plain REBEL) flag that believe that
"black people" should be put in chains and sold on an auction block.
I've flown the flag myself, back when I was married, and living in Lower
Alabama.  Stuck a flagpole up in the front yard and hoisted that thing
high and proud.  I did this in protest, as at the time I was REBELling
against something that was important to myself and my wife.  To me, and
most of the people I know that display this flag, it signifies a Rebel
cause, not an opinion that someone should be a second, or lower, class
citizen because of the color of their skin.  Honestly and truthfully,
skin color makes such a small amount of difference to me that, unless
someone goes out of their way to show it, I frequently do not remember
if a person is "black" or "white".  And no, that ISN'T because my memory
is bad (though may well be, I can't remember), but because it DOESN'T
MAKE ANY DAMNED DIFFERENCE.  Now, if a guy comes up to me, talking
"jive" and making a point of proving to me that he's upset because his
great-great-great-grandfather used to be a slave, then sure, I'll notice
that his skin is darker than mine (but, as anyone that's met me will
tell you, so is almost EVERYONE else's).  Otherwise, who cares?
Certainly not me.  If I find a woman attractive, I don't look closely to
see if she has any African-American blood, and then snub her if she
does, if I find her attractive I tell her so, "black" or "white".

  The day I was hired at the job that's taking up all my time, another
guy was in there getting hired as well, and his ride had to leave before
he was finished with the paperwork, so I gave him a ride home.  When I
dropped him off, he tried to pay me for the lift, and I refused him.  He
thanked me again, and said it was real nice to see someone willing to
help out, especially with the "race thing".  That pissed me off.  I
almost snapped at him, but stopped myself and told him "No problem".  It
wasn't his fault, entirely, that he saw me as "white" and him as
"black", but every time someone points out the difference I can't help
but start to boil....  There IS no damned difference.  No, wait, I AM
SLIGHTLY wrong.....but the difference is ENTIRELY cultural.  Until such
time as people are TAUGHT the truth, that there is really no difference
between humans with different colored skin, we will continue to have
"racial (stupid word, everyone's still human, right?) problems".

  I myself advocate research into a virus that will cause people's skin
to change color, randomly selected by some minor, non-important,
variable in the human body, with shadings so widely varied that no two
people have the exact same coloring.....  Now, I don't mean make
"blacks" "white", or vice versa, I mean colors like blue, pink, purple,
green, yellow, red....you get the idea.  Make sure no one is the same
color as anyone else, and MAYBE people will begin to act with a little
common sense......  (But trust me, I'm NOT holding my breath.....)


                                                   9301.17

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Local Music In February
by Judy Ranelli


Mon. 1
   KENT DUCHAINE at The Nick
   He used to play with Johnny Shines, a legendary blues guitarist and
car uphoslterer, but since Mr. Shines passed away, Mr. Duchaine
continues to play classic blues and slide on a very cool dobro.

Thur. 4
   TONY LOMBARDO QUARTET at Dugan's
   SPACE CAMP at Otey's
   Happy birthday to miscreants all over the world; go to Dugan's at
some point and drink a coffee cocktail to The Infamous Tony Lombardo
quartet.  Or go to Otey's and get your eardrums redecorated with Space
Camp.  Don Tinsley has become my new Favorite Birmingham Guitarist.

Fri. 5
   TOPPER PRICE AND THE UPSETTERS/THE DIGGERS at The Nick
   The Diggers are a lovely band from Atlanta that I highly recommend
for very vague reasons which I won't go into here.  Huh?  Oh, and Topper
Price & The Upsetters are especially good when Topper has had a few.
They do stuff like "Route 66" and grungy blues with great harmonica,
courtesy of Topper.  I understand they even did "Poke Salad Annie" on
request, but I shudder to think of that.

Sat. 6
   Go bowling.

Mon. 8
   Writer's Night at Otey's
   The Flamingo's Writers Night moved to Otey's.  Now here goes my
professional career, but I don't like Writers Night, at least this one.
Why?  Two reasons: they don't allow people to talk during the
performances - hardly a friendly barroom atmosphere setting - and they
take a collection after the patrons have already payed cover, never a
successful tactic to use on skinflint musicians like me.  Oh, they also
have strict rules about who gets to play and who doesn't; it's not a
democratic procedure, either.  That's three reasons, isn't it?

Mon. 8
   JONATHAN RICHMAN at Zydeco
   See, you'd rather be here anyway!  Jonathan Richman is a very
funny, very witty popsongster... I've seen him before, you know...
heh... it will be a jovial evening, to be sure.

Tue. 9
   ARC ANGELS at Louie Louie
   I don't know what they sound like, but they have lots of famous
players in one band: Charlie Sexton, and a couple of guys that played
with Stevie Ray Vaughn.  Probably worth seeing.

Wed. 10
   REMY ZERO at The Nick
   In 1989, I heard about Remy Zero as a band that, without live
performances, had managed to snag a major label contract.  "I'll believe
it when I see it," I stated.  Here they are, finally.  I still hold out
belief in the album release until I see it in the CD bin, but otherwise,
I intend to check this band out.  Come see what Birmingham's up to.

Thurs. 11
   ALEX OGBURN at Burly Earl
   Alex is an excellent drummer who is playing guitar in a little local
circuit.  I haven't heard him do this so I am curious as to what it will
be like.  He's talented, that's for sure.

Sat. 13
   THE VILLAGE PEOPLE at Louie Louie
   I own a concert book from their tour in the late '70s signed by the
Indian.  How amusing to find this embarrassing item suddenly regarded as
cool again.  I think this show will be lots of fun even if they do lip
sync.

Mon. 15
   PUNKINHEAD/A MET Z at The Nick
   Don't know about Punkinhead, but A Met Z are still one of the neater
bands in Birmingham; I own and enjoy their tape.

Wed. 17
   Live Mariachi Band at Sol' Azteca
   I saw one of these in a restaurant in San Antonio.  Pretty neat.  I
like those bass guitars.

Wed. 25
   BARKING TRIBE at The Nick
   They sound quite good with the horns and keyboards.  It's brilliant
because it's the last thing anyone would have predicted they would do
after they lost their guitarist and druumer.

Thurs. 25
   MARCIA BALL at Louie Louie
   A New Orleans pianist, she looms tall over the audience and her
gigantic hands scoop up keys and sling 'em back while one foot works the
pedals and the other, her legs being crossed, kicks an invisible target
in the air.  Her backup band sweats and her audience sweats and we all
have fun.

Thurs. 25
   PINKY THE STABBER at The Nick
   Bassist Chris Hendrix and I have talked for many years about forming
a group that would, once, play 2112 live.  I think I'll add a slow,
solemn "Band on the Run" to the list.  And you already know I like Pinky
very very very much.

Fri. 26
   DAN BAIRD at The Nick
   You know, that gap in his teeth didn't hinder his success in the
video circuit.  Amazing.  I bet this will be a good show, the Satellites
always were.
   [Ed.: Dan Baird used to be the guy in the Georgia Satellites.  Hey,
I didn't know.]

   One last note: Did you catch the Shawn Ryan article on Center Stage
Productions in the News? Well, I was a Center Stage member for six
years.  The reasons for its demise are complex, but one thing Shawn
missed was that the chairperson was privy to unbelievable perks, which
are now given to the UAB personnel that took power out of the
chairperson's pocket.  Well and good; the students pay for it all
anyway.  But the situation was driven by the fact stated above and
having interviewed only former chairpersons, Ryan missed getting that
fact stated.  Actually, I could probably write a sordid book about why
Center Stage has faded from its glory, but no one is really interested.
Let sleeping dogs lie, the cliche' says.  zzzzzzz.

       ----
       Local musician Judy Ranelli, in case you missed the hint in the
       article, celebrates a birthday on February 4.

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BBS Spotlight
by Eric Hunt

       This month:  SPERRY BBS


1) Name of the BBS:

  SPERRY

2) Name of the sysop:

  Jack Efird

3) BBS software used:

  PCBoard 14.5a

4) How long have you been sysoping?

  Started playing with bbs in 1982.  Had a full time on-line
  bbs in 1984.

5) Are you a subscription only / completely free / hybrid of the
   two BBS?

  There is NEVER a charge for the use of this bbs.

6) How many incoming phone lines and approximate disk space? Do
   you support high speed modems? If so, what type(s)?

  At present, there is one incomming line, supporting up to
  14400 (v32bis/v42bis).  The modem is a Practical Peripherals
  PM1440FXSA.  Disk space (always a problem) is 285 megs.

7) Is your BBS primarily a files BBS, primarily a message based
   BBS, or a combination of the two?

  Files seem to be the winner here.  There just has never been
  a large message base.  I didn't plan it that way, it just is.

8) If you've sysop'd more than just this BBS, briefly list previous
   endeavours and their lifespans.

  This is the only one!

9) What made you decide to take the masochistic plunge and become a
   sysop?

  Crazy I guess.  No, honestly, I enjoy running the bbs, even
  though it gets pretty hectic at times.  It is rewarding to be
  able to provide a service for free.

10) What is the general 'thrust' or area of specialty for your BBS:

   Doesn't seem to have one does it?  I am presently in the
   process of thinking out how I might change the bbs (for the
   better, I hope).

11) (optional) What is your regular job/career to support this
   leeching hobby of sysoping?

   I am a lead engineer with Unisys Corp.  I have over 25 years
   with the combination of my time with Sperry, and the new
   Unisys (formed by the merger of Sperry & Burroughs).

12) What are your plans for the coming year?

   Immediate plans are to add a CD rom drive, in the hopes that
   it will free up some of the badly needed hard drive space.
   Only time will tell if another node can be justified.

13) Where would you like your BBS to go over the next 5 years?

   Of course I would like to see it grow.  My time, job, and
   available finances will determine what happens.

14) What do you feel the highlights of your BBS are?

   General interest files, and game doors.

15) What is your personal vision of the 'ideal user?'

   One who is aware of others who would enjoy the same interests
   as him/herself.  One who is aware that they are a "guest" in
   my home, and conducts themselves accordingly.

16) What is the thing you've enjoyed most about providing your BBS?

   The interesting people I meet, the vast file libraries that have
   been generated, and the knowledge that I have gained from it.

17) What is the thing you've enjoyed least about providing your BBS?

   The DAILY upkeep that MUST be done, and the constant battle
   for hard disk space.

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SIG's (Special Interest Groups), Computer Related
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BEPCUG                              CCS
Birmingham East PC Users Group      Commodore Club South
Jefferson Sate Jr. College          Springville Road Library
Ruby Carson Hall, Rm 114            2nd & 4th Tuesday (C64/C128)
3rd Friday, 7-9 PM                  3rd Monday (Amiga)
Paula Ballard 251-6058 (after 5PM)  7:30-10 PM

BCCC                                BIPUG
Birmingham Commodore Computer Club  Birmingham IBM-PC Users Group
POB 59564                           UAB Nutrition Science Blg
Birmingham, Al 35259                RM 535/541
UAB School of Education, Rm 153     1st Sunday (delayed one week
2nd and 4th Sundays, 2 PM              if meeting is a holiday)
Rusty Hargett 854-5172              Marty Schulman 967-5883

BACE                                FAOUG
Birmingham Atari Computer           First Alabama Osborne Users
Enthusiast                          Group
Vestavia Library, downstairs        Homewood Library
2nd Monday, 7 PM                    1st Saturday, 1PM
Benny Brown 822-5059                Ed Purquez 669-5200

CADUB                               BGS/CIG
CAD Users of Birmingham             Birmingham Genealogical Society/
Homewood Library                    Computer Interest Group
3rd Tuesday, 6:30PM-8:30PM          Birmingham Public Library
Bobby Benson 791-0426               3rd Floor Auditorium
                                   2rd Sunday, 2:30 PM
                                   Robert Matthews 631-9783 or
                                   Bone Yard BBS

RAHSPCUG
Ramsay Alternative High School PC Users Group
Ramsay High School
1800 13th Avenue South
last Wednesday of each month (September-April)
from 3:02-3:35
Lee Nocella 581-5120

SIG's, Non-Computer Related
---------------------------

BBC                                 Birmingham Astronomy Club
Blue Box Companions                 Subject: Astronomy
Subject: Dr. Who                    Red Mountain Museum Annex
Hoover Library                      4th Tuesday, 7:30PM
1st Saturday, 2PM-5PM

If you belong to or know of a user group that is not listed,
please let us know by sending E-Mail to Barry Bowden on
The Matrix BBS.

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Known BBS Numbers For The Birmingham Area


Again, sysops, pay careful attention to the line where your networks are
listed, and let me know if I need to add or omit any.


NAME                    NUMBER     BAUD RATES   MODEM    BBS SOFTWARE
                                  SUPPORTED    TYPE

221-B Baker Street      856-7034   1200-2400             VBBS 5.52
       [none]
ADAnet One (Nodes 1-3)  854-9074   1200-2400             PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, fi, ad]
ADAnet One (Node 4)     854-5863   9600-14400   USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, fi, ad]
Alter-Ego BBS           925-5099   1200-9600    USR HST  PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn]
Asgard                  663-9171    300-9600    V.32     WWIV 4.21a
       [ez, al, te]
Baudville (Node 1)      640-4593    300-2400             Major BBS 6.02
       [none]
Baudville (Node 2)      640-4639    300-2400             Major BBS 6.02
       [none]
Baudville (Node 3)      640-7243    300-2400             Major BBS 6.02
       [none]
Baudville (Node 4)      640-7286    300-2400             Major BBS 6.02
       [none]
Bert's BBS              424-2872    300-2400             WWIV 4.21
       [none]
Bone Yard, The          631-6023    300-9600    USR HST  PCBoard 14.5
       [fi, ez]
Bus System              987-5419    300-2400             PCBoard 14.2
       [none]
Byte Me!                979-BYTE!  2400-14400   USR HST  WWIV 4.12
       [ez, th, al]
Cannibal Cafe           942-9576    300-2400             VBBS 5.52
       [none]
Castle, The             841-7618    300-2400             Image 1.2
       [none]
Castle Rock             995-9900   1200-19200            VBBS 5.52
       [vi, al]
Channel 8250 (Node 1)   744-8546   300-14400    USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, un]
Channel 8250 (Node 2)   744-5166   300-14400    USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, un]
Christian Apologetic    808-0763   300-14400    V.32bis  Wildcat! 3.55
       [wi, bc]
Cow's Head              856-2465   1200-2400             Hermes 1.7
       [none]
Crunchy Frog (Node 1)   823-3957   300-14400    USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn, lu]
Crunchy Frog (Node 2)   823-3958   300-14400    USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn, lu]
DataLynx                328-7688    300-2400             WWIV 4.21
       [ez]
Deep Space 9            980-1089   300-14400             Wildcat! 3.51
       [di, fi]
Den, The                933-8744    300-9600    USR HST  ProLogon/ProDoor
       [ez, mn, il]
Disktop Publishing      854-1660    300-9600    V.32     Wildcat! 3.01
       [pl]
Drawing Room            951-2391    300-2400             Wildcat! 3.02
       [di]
EcoBBS                  933-2238    300-2400             WWIV 4.21
       [al]
Family Smorgas-Board    744-0943    300-2400             PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, fi, mj, bc, fa, ic, cf, cd, np, ag, ve]
Flip Side               798-3961    300-2400             Renegade 8.27
       [none]
Forest Palace           942-4581   300-57600    V.42bis  VBBS 5.52
       [none]
Gateway BBS             425-8772    300-2400             Image 1.2
       [none]
Genesis Online (Nodes 1-4) 620-4144 300-14400   V.32bis  Major BBS 5.3
       [mr]
Graphics Zone (Node 1)  870-5306    300-2400    MNP4     TBBS 2.1(16)
       [none]
Graphics Zone (Node 2)  870-5329    300-2400    MNP4     TBBS 2.1(16)
       [none]
Guardian, The           425-1951   1200-9600    V.32bis  VBBS 5.6
       [vi]
Hacker's Corner         674-5449   1200-2400    MNP4     PCBoard 14.5
       [none]
Hardeman's BBS          640-6436  1200-14400             Wildcat! 3.51
       [wi, di, bc]
Hardware Hotline        631-6629   300-14400    V.32/42  VBBS 5.52
       [none]
Headland, The           991-0947   300-14400             VBBS 5.6
       [he, vi]
Homewood's Hell Hole    870-9067  2400-14440    V.32bis  VBBS 5.52
       [he]
Hoots With Owls         520-9540  1200-14400    V.32bis  TriBBS 3.3
       [cc, tr]
Illuminatus BBS         871-0489   1200-9600             VBBS 5.52
       [vi, al]
Intruder Enterprizes    969-0870    300-9600    V.32     VBBS 5.6
       [vi, al]
Joker's Castle          664-5589   300-14400    USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn, un]
KickAxis BBS            733-0253  1200-14400    USR DS   VBBS 5.52
       [he]
Last Word               663-4721    300-2400             VBBS 5.6
       [he]
Lemon Grove             836-1184   300-12000    V.32/42bis  SLBBS 2.25
       [fi, sl]
Lion & The Unicorn      424-1599  1200-57600             VBBS 5.52
       [ga, al, vi]
Magic City              664-9883   300-14400    V.32bis  Wildcat! 3.55
       [cc, dx, tr]
Magnolia BBS            854-6407   300-14400    USR HST  PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn]
MATRIX, The (Nodes 1-13)  323-2016 300-2400              PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn, th, il, in, al, sh, sc, gl, ic, ri, fr]
MATRIX, The (Nodes 20-23) 323-6016   9600-14400 USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn, th, il, in, al, sh, sc, gl, ic, ri, fr]
MATRIX, The (Node 25)     458-3449  9600-14400  V.32     PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn, th, il, in, al, sh, sc, gl, ic, ri, fr]
MetaBoard               254-3344   300-14400    USR DS   Opus
       [fi]
Milliways BBS           956-3177  2400-14440    V.32     VBBS 5.6
       [he]
Missing Link            853-1257   300-16800    USR DS   C-Net Amiga 2.31
       [none]
Neon Moon               477-5894    300-2400             TriBBS 3.1
       [none]
Night Watch             841-2790  1200-14400    USR DS   TriBBS 3.3
       [cc, tr, di, fi]
Nirvana                 942-6702   300-14400    V.32bis  VBBS 5.52
       [al, vi]
Outer Limits (Node 1)   425-5871  1200-14400    USR HST  Wildcat! 3.55
       [fi]
Outer Limits (Node 2)   426-2939   1200-9600    V.32bis  Wildcat! 3.55
       [fi]
Owlabama BBS            856-2521  1200-14400             GTPower 17.06
       [gt, ez, mn, cc]
Owl's Nest              680-0851   300-14400    USR DS   PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, mn]
Party Line              856-1336   300-14000    V.32bis  TriBBS 3.3
       [cc, tr, di]
Penny Arcade            699-4625    300-2400             Running Force! 3.75
       [none]
Playground              836-4200   300-14000    V.32     TriBBS 3.3
       [tr, di, cc, ez, al]
Posys BBS               854-5131    300-9600    V.32     PCBoard
       [none]
Quiet Zone              833-2066    300-2400             ExpressNet
       [none]
Razor's Edge            995-0412   1200-2400             VBBS 5.6
       [he]
Safe Harbor (Node 1)    665-4332    300-2400             GTPower 17.06
       [gt, ez, mn, il]
Safe Harbor (Node 2)    665-4355   300-14400    USR DS   GTPower 17.06
       [gt, ez, mn, il]
Safety BBS              581-2866    300-2400             RBBS-PC 17.4
       [none]
Sleepy Hollow           970-0518    300-2400             VBBS 5.52
       [none]
Sperry BBS              853-6144    300-2400    V.32/42bis  PCBoard 14.5
       [none]
ST BBS                  836-9311    300-2400             PCBoard 14.2
       [ez]
StarBase 12             647-7184    300-2400             TriBBS 3.3
       [ez, mn]
Southern Stallion       699-4797    300-2400             PCBoard 14.5
       [ez, th, lu, an]
Teasers                 987-0122    300-2400             WWIV 4.21
       [al]
T.G.U.E. BBS            681-0002   1200-2400             RoBoBBS
       [none]
Thy Master's Dungeon    940-2116   300-57600    V.32/42bis  PCBoard 14.5
       [none]
Torch Song              328-1517    300-9600    V.32     Wildcat 3.55
       [pr, se, st, do]
Trauma Room             823-9127    300-9600             VBBS 5.6
       [vi, al, ww, lo, rp]
Weekends BBS            841-8583  2400-16800    USR DS   Wildcat! 3.50
       [none]
Willie's DYM (Node 1)   664-9902    300-2400             Oracomm Plus
       [or]
Willie's DYM (Node 2)   664-9903    300-2400             Oracomm Plus
       [or]
Willie's DYM (Node 3)   664-9895    300-2400             Oracomm Plus
       [or]
Willie's DYM (Node 4)   664-9896    300-2400             Oracomm Plus
       [or]
Word, The               833-2831    300-2400             WWIV 4.12
       [al, ez]
Ziggy Unix BBS          991-5696    300-1200             UNaXess
       [none]

The many symbols you see prior to the names of many of the bbs' in the
list signify that they are members of one or more networks that exchange
or echo mail to each other in some organized fashion.

ad = ADAnet, an international network dedicated to the handicapped
ag = AgapeNet, a national Christian network, multi-topic
al = AlaNet, a local network, multi-topic
an = Annex Network, uncertain at press time
bc = BCBNet, a local network, religion-oriented
bh = BhamTalk, a local network, multi-topic
cc = City2City, a national network, multi-topic
cd = CDN, a national Christian network for file distribution
cf = CFN, a national Christian network, multi-topic
di = Dixie Net, a regional network, multi-topic geared toward the south
    eastern United States
do = DoorNet, uncertain at press time
ez = EzNet, a local IBM compatible network
fa = FamilyNet, an international network, multi-topic
fi = FidoNet, an international network, multi-topic
fr = FredNet, a regional network, political discussion
ga = GameNet, a local network, uncertain at press time
gl = GlobalLink, an international network, multi-topic
gt = GTNet, an international network, multi-topic
he = HellNet, a local network, multi-topic
ic = ICDM, an international Christian network, multi-topic
il = ILink, an international network, multi-topic
ic = Intelec, a national network, multi-topic
in = InterNet, an international network, linking businesses,
    universities, and bbs', multi-topic
lo = LocalNet, uncertain at press time
lu = LuciferNet, an international network, adult oriented
ma = MAXnet, a local network, connecting WWIV and VBBS systems
mj = MJCN, an international network for Messianic Jews
mn = Metronet, an international network which echoes RIME, multi-topic
mr = MajorNet, an international network, multi-topic
np = NPN, a national network for new parents
or = OraNet, a national E-mail network
pl = PlanoNet, a national network, multi-topic
pr = PrideNet, a local homosexually oriented network
ri = RIME, an international network, multi-topic
rp = RPGnet, a local network for role-playing games
sc = Science Factor Net, a national network, science and technology
    oriented
se = SEC, a regional network, homosexually oriented geared toward the
    southeastern United States
sh = Shades N Shadows Net, a national network for role-playing games
sl = SearchlightNet, a national network, multi-topic
st = StudsNet, a national network, homosexually oriented
te = TECHnet, a local network, hardware and utility oriented
th = ThrobNet, an international network, adult oriented
tr = TriBBS Net, a national network, multi-topic
un = Uni'Net, an international network, multi-topic
ve = VETLink, a national network for military veterans
vi = VirtualNet, an international network, multi-topic
wi = WildNet, a national network, multi-topic
ww = WWIV-Net, an international network, multi-topic


If you have any corrections, additions, deletions, etc., please let me
know via a message on the main board of The Matrix or Crunchy Frog.


The following BBSs appeared to be down or malfunctioning the last time I
tried to verify their existence.  If you have any information on their
status, please drop me a line.

ADAnet One          Forest Palace       Sleepy Hollow

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